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How To Get Rid Of These Jaggies?  
User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3994 posts, RR: 55
Posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5156 times:

Hi all,

I took the following shot today in a bit of nast yweather:

http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...3132&filename=1156099500semT64.jpg

The hor. stab. has some major (IMHO) jaggies and also the engine pylons aren't that jaggiefree. These jaggies appeared before sharpening, about right after I resized the image.

I was thinking about uploading, but I think these jaggies are killing it. How did they get there and how can I remove them?

Many thanks,

Kas

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User currently offlineDiezel From Netherlands, joined Oct 2002, 646 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5142 times:

Hey Kas, nice pic (and nice plane)!

The jaggies are kind of disturbing (at least to me). I don't know if you did but this picture is the ideal candidate for shooting in RAW. You then could have set the sharpening to none and work with layers to sharpen all parts of the airplane as necessary.

Roel.



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User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5136 times:

Is there any way you could post the original for people to have a look at?

User currently offlineBottie From Belgium, joined May 2004, 281 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5131 times:

I had sometimes the same problem. Try to resize in small steps:

eg: 3000 - 2750 - 2500 - 2250 - 2000 - 1750 - 1500 - 1250 - 1200


That helped for me


rgrds,


Bram


User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3994 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5120 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 2):
Is there any way you could post the original for people to have a look at?

I've tried to upload it, but it's 2.4M, too big for the a.net photo upload.

Quoting Bottie (Reply 3):
I had sometimes the same problem. Try to resize in small steps:

eg: 3000 - 2750 - 2500 - 2250 - 2000 - 1750 - 1500 - 1250 - 1200

I'm trying this as we speak. After I'm done I'll let you all know if it worked.

Thanks,

Kas


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5114 times:

Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 4):
I've tried to upload it, but it's 2.4M

Just open a free account at www.flickr.com and you can link from that.


User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3994 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5111 times:

Quoting Bottie (Reply 3):
I had sometimes the same problem. Try to resize in small steps:

eg: 3000 - 2750 - 2500 - 2250 - 2000 - 1750 - 1500 - 1250 - 1200


That helped for me

It helped me aswell!! It's fixed, thank you very much Bram!  praise 

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 5):
Just open a free account at www.flickr.com and you can link from that.

Thanks Ian, I'll do that to make sure I can link in the future!

Kas


User currently offlineBottie From Belgium, joined May 2004, 281 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5099 times:

Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 6):
It helped me aswell!! It's fixed, thank you very much Bram!

Glad I could help, Kas  Smile


User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5062 times:

I noticed resizing in steps you lose a pixel.
For instance when you re size in steps to
1200-800 = 1200-799
1024-683 = 1024-682.
Not sure why this happens and not sure if its enough for a size rejection.
Cheers



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User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5048 times:

Hey Kas.

Do you shoot RAW?

If you do, I'm surprised that you get jaggies. I was just editing a bunch of RAW pictures today and the photos were too soft...

No jaggies at all!  Confused


User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5697 posts, RR: 44
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5042 times:
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Quoting Aero145 (Reply 9):
Do you shoot RAW?

Was going to ask the same question, if not RAW what sharpness level to you have you in camera jpg processing set to?

I tried a RAW image and a 0 sharpness JPG and could not produce enough jaggies to evaluate Bram's technique.

Cheers

Chris



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User currently offlineDlednicer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 544 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5020 times:
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Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 8):
I noticed resizing in steps you lose a pixel.
For instance when you re size in steps to
1200-800 = 1200-799
1024-683 = 1024-682.
Not sure why this happens and not sure if its enough for a size rejection.

I did get a size rejection on that and learned to check my final size after using progressive resizing. I make sure the last resize has one dimension correct (eg. 1024) and the other too big. Then I switch the marquee tool in Photoshop to fixed size (set to the 1024x768) and crop one more time.


User currently offlineBottie From Belgium, joined May 2004, 281 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5003 times:

When resizing, I always stop at 1203 x .... (I mostly upload at 1200x800), Final step for me is 'Canvas size', that way I avoid also bad_borders (eg. 1203 x803 becomes 1200x800)

User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3994 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4969 times:

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 8):
I noticed resizing in steps you lose a pixel.
For instance when you re size in steps to
1200-800 = 1200-799
1024-683 = 1024-682.

Hmm, You're right! It's indeed 1024x682.

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 9):
Do you shoot RAW?

The photos from yesterday weren't shot in RAW.

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 10):
if not RAW what sharpness level to you have you in camera jpg processing set to?

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Sharpening the image in the camera? I haven't touched anything regarding that, so it's probably at standard.

Anyways, I might have to retry tomorrow, as it's scheduled for the 22th again  Smile

-Kas


User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5697 posts, RR: 44
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4963 times:
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Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 13):
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Sharpening the image in the camera? I

Then with all due respect you need to read your camera manual.. the JPG settings in your camera have several sharpening settings and depending on which camera model you use the standard settings may or may not be appropriate for aviation photography.

Cheers



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User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4934 times:

I dont personally shoot RAW alot, but I have never really found sharpening an issue in RAW. I cant say that RAW images are softer from the camera. Take off an in-camera shapenning for sure just to be safe. YOU choose the level of sharpness in the RAW image. YOU control it.

The resizing steps is very interesting. Something i've never tried and never really had too. I'll bear it in mind next time I have trouble.

Regards
Colin  Smile


User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3994 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4916 times:

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 14):
Then with all due respect you need to read your camera manual.. the JPG settings in your camera have several sharpening settings and depending on which camera model you use the standard settings may or may not be appropriate for aviation photography.

Hi Chris,

I couldn't find it in the manual, but I checked it in the menu of my camera. The sharpness is standard, the meter stands right in the middle.
I have a Canon 300D, is this setting suitable for aviation photogrpahy?

-Kas


User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5697 posts, RR: 44
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4880 times:
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Kaz,
I beleive that is the appropriate setting, perhaps someone with a 300D can confirm.
For your reference the 300D English language Manual has a section on Setting Processing Parameters on page 55

Regards

Chris



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