How To Get Rid Of These Jaggies? — Aviation Photography Forum

Sponsor Message:


My Starred Topics \| Profile \| New Topic \| Forum Index \| Help \| Search

How To Get Rid Of These Jaggies?

AirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3848 posts, RR: 57
Posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2967 times:

Hi all,

I took the following shot today in a bit of nast yweather:

http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...3132&filename=1156099500semT64.jpg

The hor. stab. has some major (IMHO) jaggies and also the engine pylons aren't that jaggiefree. These jaggies appeared before sharpening, about right after I resized the image.

I was thinking about uploading, but I think these jaggies are killing it. How did they get there and how can I remove them?

Many thanks,

Kas

Life is short, swim naked

17 replies: All unread, jump to last

Diezel From Netherlands, joined Oct 2002, 646 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2953 times:

Hey Kas, nice pic (and nice plane)!

The jaggies are kind of disturbing (at least to me). I don't know if you did but this picture is the ideal candidate for shooting in RAW. You then could have set the sharpening to none and work with layers to sharpen all parts of the airplane as necessary.

Roel.

Never be afraid of what you like. (Miles Davis)

9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2947 times:

Is there any way you could post the original for people to have a look at?

Bottie From Belgium, joined May 2004, 281 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2942 times:

I had sometimes the same problem. Try to resize in small steps:

eg: 3000 - 2750 - 2500 - 2250 - 2000 - 1750 - 1500 - 1250 - 1200

That helped for me

rgrds,

Bram

AirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3848 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2931 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 2):
Is there any way you could post the original for people to have a look at?

I've tried to upload it, but it's 2.4M, too big for the a.net photo upload.

Quoting Bottie (Reply 3):
I had sometimes the same problem. Try to resize in small steps:

eg: 3000 - 2750 - 2500 - 2250 - 2000 - 1750 - 1500 - 1250 - 1200

I'm trying this as we speak. After I'm done I'll let you all know if it worked.

Thanks,

Kas

Life is short, swim naked

9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2925 times:

Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 4):
I've tried to upload it, but it's 2.4M

Just open a free account at www.flickr.com and you can link from that.

AirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3848 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2922 times:

Quoting Bottie (Reply 3):
I had sometimes the same problem. Try to resize in small steps:

eg: 3000 - 2750 - 2500 - 2250 - 2000 - 1750 - 1500 - 1250 - 1200

That helped for me

It helped me aswell!! It's fixed, thank you very much Bram! praise

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 5):
Just open a free account at www.flickr.com and you can link from that.

Thanks Ian, I'll do that to make sure I can link in the future!

Kas

Life is short, swim naked

Bottie From Belgium, joined May 2004, 281 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2910 times:

Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 6):
It helped me aswell!! It's fixed, thank you very much Bram!

Glad I could help, Kas Smile

JumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2462 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2873 times:

Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

I noticed resizing in steps you lose a pixel.
For instance when you re size in steps to
1200-800 = 1200-799
1024-683 = 1024-682.
Not sure why this happens and not sure if its enough for a size rejection.
Cheers

On a wing and a prayer

Aero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3070 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2859 times:

Hey Kas.

Do you shoot RAW?

If you do, I'm surprised that you get jaggies. I was just editing a bunch of RAW pictures today and the photos were too soft...

No jaggies at all! Confused

StealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5433 posts, RR: 49
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2853 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 9):
Do you shoot RAW?

Was going to ask the same question, if not RAW what sharpness level to you have you in camera jpg processing set to?

I tried a RAW image and a 0 sharpness JPG and could not produce enough jaggies to evaluate Bram's technique.

Cheers

Chris

If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!

Dlednicer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 506 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2831 times:

AIRLINERS.NET CREW
DATABASE EDITOR

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 8):
I noticed resizing in steps you lose a pixel.
For instance when you re size in steps to
1200-800 = 1200-799
1024-683 = 1024-682.
Not sure why this happens and not sure if its enough for a size rejection.

I did get a size rejection on that and learned to check my final size after using progressive resizing. I make sure the last resize has one dimension correct (eg. 1024) and the other too big. Then I switch the marquee tool in Photoshop to fixed size (set to the 1024x768) and crop one more time.

Bottie From Belgium, joined May 2004, 281 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2814 times:

When resizing, I always stop at 1203 x .... (I mostly upload at 1200x800), Final step for me is 'Canvas size', that way I avoid also bad_borders (eg. 1203 x803 becomes 1200x800)

AirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3848 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2780 times:

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 8):
I noticed resizing in steps you lose a pixel.
For instance when you re size in steps to
1200-800 = 1200-799
1024-683 = 1024-682.

Hmm, You're right! It's indeed 1024x682.

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 9):
Do you shoot RAW?

The photos from yesterday weren't shot in RAW.

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 10):
if not RAW what sharpness level to you have you in camera jpg processing set to?

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Sharpening the image in the camera? I haven't touched anything regarding that, so it's probably at standard.

Anyways, I might have to retry tomorrow, as it's scheduled for the 22th again Smile

-Kas

Life is short, swim naked

StealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5433 posts, RR: 49
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 13):
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Sharpening the image in the camera? I

Then with all due respect you need to read your camera manual.. the JPG settings in your camera have several sharpening settings and depending on which camera model you use the standard settings may or may not be appropriate for aviation photography.

Cheers

If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!

Linco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1379 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2745 times:

I dont personally shoot RAW alot, but I have never really found sharpening an issue in RAW. I cant say that RAW images are softer from the camera. Take off an in-camera shapenning for sure just to be safe. YOU choose the level of sharpness in the RAW image. YOU control it.

The resizing steps is very interesting. Something i've never tried and never really had too. I'll bear it in mind next time I have trouble.

Regards
Colin Smile

AirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3848 posts, RR: 57
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2727 times:

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 14):
Then with all due respect you need to read your camera manual.. the JPG settings in your camera have several sharpening settings and depending on which camera model you use the standard settings may or may not be appropriate for aviation photography.

Hi Chris,

I couldn't find it in the manual, but I checked it in the menu of my camera. The sharpness is standard, the meter stands right in the middle.
I have a Canon 300D, is this setting suitable for aviation photogrpahy?

-Kas

Life is short, swim naked

StealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5433 posts, RR: 49
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 2691 times:

Kaz,
I beleive that is the appropriate setting, perhaps someone with a 300D can confirm.
For your reference the 300D English language Manual has a section on Setting Processing Parameters on page 55

Regards

Chris

If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!

Top Of Page

Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics: