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Motiv Ok Or Not? ... Advice Needed!  
User currently offlineAvro85 From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 236 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4302 times:

Is the motiv on the following picture acceptable or not ? And are there any other possible flaws with the picture ?

I hope to hear some good news  Wink

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/HB-IXH_01.jpg

Chris

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User currently offlineDazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2886 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4293 times:

I'm not sure about the motive, whether its acceptable or not (I like it, its a nice formation shot), but it looks unlevel to me. The photo looks like its leaning to the left. I think you need to rotate it clockwise if you can without cropping off the tail of the first aircraft. It also might be a bit dark (having suffered many of these recently myself!).

Darren



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User currently offlineConinpa From Luxembourg, joined May 2005, 244 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4275 times:
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Hi Chris,
The motive seems ok to me, but

Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 1):
I think you need to rotate it clockwise

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Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 1):
It also might be a bit dark

 checkmark  The birds are totally in the shadow...

I also have a strange "feeling" about "Center". Just my immediate perception.

Cheers
Patrick



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User currently offlineAvro85 From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 236 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4255 times:

Thanks for the feedback so far.

I tried to correct the level issue.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/HB-IXH_02.jpg

However the photo is still dark. But would this be a problem ? I mean all the picture is in the shadow and everything is clearly visible ?

Chris


User currently offlineCosmic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4236 times:

Hi Chris,

Firstly nice photo, a good capture!

It now appears to be stright in my opinion. Regarding the dark, it was taken in a shadow so it might be ok  Smile

Cosmic


User currently offlineAvro85 From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 236 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4205 times:

Thanks Cosmic.

I think I'll keep the second one in the queue and cross the fingers  Wink

Here I have another one where I'm quite unsure whether or not the motiv would be acceptable......

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/EI-DMk_04.jpg

Chris


User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3048 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4201 times:
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Hi Chris.

My comment on the first would be that I would fear for a rejection. The first thing I noticed, even with the second edit, is the effect of the heat haze caused by the jet efflux. I think that is having a detrimental effect on the quality, from an A.net point of view. I also think it is still a bit gloomy.

As regards the second, you might be playing with 'motive' fire there   . I think it carries a significant risk.

All the best.

Paul

[Edited 2006-08-29 23:37:16]

User currently offlineVasanthD From India, joined May 2005, 450 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4200 times:

Quoting Avro85 (Thread starter):
I hope to hear some good news

I saved a bunch of money on car insurance Big grin just kidding.

It is a nice capture. Just make sure to refer HB-IXH on your upload (which I believe you did). It sure looks dark coz of the shadow area...did you try to play it around?

The second picture might yield a bad motive though...do you have the same with the tail included?

--Vas



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User currently offlineAvro85 From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 236 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4189 times:

Hey Paul it's been a long time....

Quoting Psych (Reply 6):
The first thing I noticed, even with the second edit, is the effect of the heat haze caused by the jet efflux. I think that is having a detrimental effect on the quality, from an A.net point of view.

Now that you mention it, I agree that the exhaust can be seen as detrimental on the picture. I will try to see if I can find a better picture in the series which I took.

Quoting VasanthD (Reply 7):
It sure looks dark coz of the shadow area...did you try to play it around?

Yes I tried to play around with the levels, but if I play too much the quality is decreasing quite rapidely.... If only the sun would have been at the right place  Wink

Quoting Psych (Reply 6):
As regards the second, you might be playing with 'motive' fire there

Let's hope the screener who will screen the picture will be gentle  Wink

Chris


User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4184 times:
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I would go with motive on the 2nd one, sorry.

First one is a no for me too, motive is ok but it's dark and heathazed.

Tim



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User currently offlineAvro85 From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 236 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4183 times:

OK thanks for your answer Tim.You don't need to be sorry  Wink

I'll pull them right away and hope to get a better chance to reproduce those motives in the future.

Cheers
Chris


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