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First "soft", Then "motiv"  
User currently offlineWalter2222 From Belgium, joined Sep 2005, 1293 posts, RR: 28
Posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2659 times:

Hi there,

I got a rejection for "motiv" this time (on the first upload attempt, it was rejected for my usual "soft"). It is never fun to get a reject, but every reject can be learned from! So, in fact I am happy that this time I could at least improve on the sharpening  Smile Now, I would just like to understand what caused the "motiv" rejection, so that I can avoid it I want to upload something similar.

This is the shot:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r..._5757_RT8_WVB_1200px_extra-USM.jpg

All advice welcome (also other shortcomings that you see, I want to learn as much as possible!).

Best regards,

Walter


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User currently offlineBubbles From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1193 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2655 times:

Quoting Walter2222 (Thread starter):
I would just like to understand what caused the "motiv" rejection

I think it's maybe caused by that guy in the photo.

_Hongyin_

P.S. Forgot to mention it's a nice photo, though.  Smile

[Edited 2006-08-29 22:19:57]

User currently offlineKukkudrill From Malta, joined Dec 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2639 times:

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 1):
I think it's maybe caused by that guy in the photo.

I agree. Still a nice photo though.

Charles



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User currently offlineConinpa From Luxembourg, joined May 2005, 244 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2636 times:
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Hi Walter,

Nice picture and nice angle, but my eyes were captured by the man in the foreground. The airplane should be the most attractive subject instead. I suppose this is the reason.

Cheers
Patrick



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User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3048 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2626 times:
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Hi Walter.

I have to agree that the man counts against the motive as regards A.net criteria. But I also think his bags and the 'contraption' in the background count against the shot. In general terms I think A.net would see these things as 'clutter', detracting from the motive of the shot.

Very frustrating for you, I am sure, as it is a very nice shot and there is nothing you can do at all about those factors. On a positive note, it remains a good photo for you to have for your own collection  wink .

All the best.

Paul


User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2610 times:

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 1):
think it's maybe caused by that guy in the photo.

That maybe the case but why not tell Walter that the first time around instead of him sharpening and uploading again? Just wasted his time when he could have been told the first time around and saved another slap on the acceptance ratio.

Is the motive rejection "button" that far from the soft one? I doubt it very much.

[Edited 2006-08-29 23:03:04]

User currently offlineBubbles From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1193 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2607 times:

Quoting Eadster (Reply 5):
That maybe the case but why not tell Walter that the first time around instead of him sharpening and uploading again?

Hi Martin,

Good question! But I may not be able to know that.  Wink

_Hongyin_


User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2598 times:

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 6):
Good question! But I may not be able to know that.

Yeah not many of us would, but it annoys me when it could have been mentioned that it was a motive on the first round instead of going through screening again.

I think its a great shot, not for here, but that doesn't matter in the slightest. Top capture I think. Well done.


User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

This is exactly the same problem I have (See 'Why Bad Motiv?'). I get really pissed off when a photo is rejected for one reason, which I fix, and it is rejected again for a totally different reason. The only scenario I can think of is that even if it had passed the first screening it might have been rejected for 'bad motiv' at its final screening.

User currently offlineWalter2222 From Belgium, joined Sep 2005, 1293 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2581 times:

Hi there,

Thank you all for the feedback! It is probably a mix of what you all have mentioned. It's very often a thin line between what is acceptable and what not.
For me, it was something different: the team had just arrived and I was so surprised to see the pilot opening the front panel of the aircraft (just like he had parked his car in front of a hotel) and unloading his luggage, it looked funny to me. But, indeed, the other objects can be distracting!

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 8):
I get really pissed off when a photo is rejected for one reason, which I fix, and it is rejected again for a totally different reason.

Sometimes I feel this frustration as well, for a short time, and then I start thinking that screeners are also human, and just maybe, the first time it was screened by someone who saw it just in the way like I did and gave it the benefit of the doubt...and then a couple of minutes on the forum and the frustration is gone! Up to the next acceptance/rejection  Smile

Many greetings,

Walter



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