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What Got Me On Motive For This Shot?  
User currently offlineJohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1726 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5867 times:

I had the shot below rejected twice a few weeks ago - the first time for soft, then for motive when I sharpened it up a bit:


I have no intention of re-submitting this shot again, but I'm curious as to the reason for the motive rejection. My motivation for taking the shot was to show a fairly clear shot of the engine and newly-applied winglets on an American 757. I know reflections can also result in a motive rejection - there's something going on on the bottom of the engine that could be a window reflection.

The reason I'm even asking this weeks after the fact is that I got the chance to re-shoot the picture at a better angle this morning. Still not a lot of scenery going on below the plane, but I believe I got a nicely-lit, reflection-free shot very similar to the image above (but on the opposite side of the plane). Is the view in my picture really bad motive, or did the reflection kill me on this one?

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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 27
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5864 times:

My guess is that they thought there was a lot of dead space in it, and the outside scenery isn't all that interesting.


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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3267 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5823 times:

Quoting JohnJ (Thread starter):
but I'm curious as to the reason for the motive rejection.

That's just it....There doesn't seem to be a motive, you're eyes just wander around wondering what to look at.

User currently offlineLanas From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 978 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5809 times:


I think the motiv rejection was due to having left a part of the engine out. The pic gives doesn´t have a central subject here. With this crop there´s neither focusing on the wing/engine nor focusing on the landscape.
The dead space on the right would qualify for a center rejection, not motiv, so I don´t think that´s the problem. Also I don´t think that the minor reflection could have caused the motiv rejection.
My humble opinion, hope it helps.  Smile


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User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4164 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5793 times:

Quoting JohnJ (Thread starter):

Could as well be the tiny bit of window frame in the lower left corner

User currently offlineCodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5716 times:

Too much empty space IMHO. The sky is greyish, too little aircraft visible.


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