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User currently offlineCYEGsTankers From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 245 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2248 times:

Micheal Carter might not be the only one...
regards,
Richard Barsby

43 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlinePrat From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 229 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2241 times:

Sorry to hear that Richard. I've enjoyed many of your photos over the past couple of years, so many thanks for all the time and effort (and cold weather in edmonton) you spent taking them!

My personal favorite which I left as my desktop wallpaper for months,


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Photo © Richard Barsby - Aviation Photography CYEG



Thanks again.


Dan


User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3905 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2221 times:

What happened, Richard?

Peter



The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad (Salvador Dali)
User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2197 times:

 no This is not good.

Another great Photographer gone...


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9603 posts, RR: 69
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2175 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

This type of thread is ridiculous. Richard, I have an idea why you might be upset, seems to me you had a picture in the queue that had a really awkward crop and there was much discussion about it, I for one would not have allowed it in, but other screeners liked it, but to do a dummy spit and threatned to leave is nothing but an attempt you slag the screening team and create attention for yourself.

User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5850 posts, RR: 40
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2171 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 4):
but to do a dummy spit and threatned to leave is nothing but an attempt you slag the screening team and create attention for yourself.

....i seem to recall you having a dummy spit not to long ago! pot--kettle--you know the rest.



a true friend is someone who sees the pain in your eyes, while everyone else believes the smile on your face.
User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9603 posts, RR: 69
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2129 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

Hi Mr Smith.

I don't recall that thread, do you mind posting a link?


User currently offlineFlightShadow From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 950 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2078 times:

Are you simply quitting because you no longer take interest, are you "retiring" at the end of a long, enjoyable "career" of aviation photography, or do I sense some hostility? If it is the latter, why have a hissy fit over a rejected photo? Take a deep breath and move on. It's not that hard. Don't leave us out cold just because a shot (or a few) got rejected.


"When the tide goes out, you can tell who was skinnydipping."
User currently offlineCYEGsTankers From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 245 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2074 times:

The attempts at getting a good photo accepted no adays has got out of hand. Some who can afford the high price equipment can amazingly get it through the scive. I keep watching the acceptance ratio plum it and it looks really bad right now. Though I did have ramp access in the past and could probably get it again, it just seems very unfair to not only the ones who try but the ones who are new at this as well. I think this is a good site, photos, information and good for contacts, but the restrictions are escalating too much. All magazine photos getting in now. My little batch of small props lately is nothing to write home about, but that's airside.
2nd thread on this topic so,
My threepence
(I'll take a break for now and check back in when I can afford a
multimillion dollar lens)
Click, were you on about this photo?
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1107420/L/
PS: Thanks PRAT (Mr. Gibson)


User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2067 times:

Quoting CYEGsTankers (Reply 8):
Click, were you on about this photo?
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1107420/L/

Your ability to plug your own photos is really amazing.
To make it easier for all the others  Wink

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Photo © Richard Barsby - Aviation Photography CYEG




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User currently offlineFlightShadow From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 950 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2067 times:

Quoting CYEGsTankers (Reply 8):
(I'll take a break for now and check back in when I can afford a
multimillion dollar lens)

Your sarcasm leads me to believe that you're just throwing a hissy fit.

I just had a photo accepted from a $150 camera without ramp access - it is possible.



"When the tide goes out, you can tell who was skinnydipping."
User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2043 times:

Quoting CYEGsTankers (Thread starter):
Micheal Carter might not be the only one...
regards,
Richard Barsby

Oh well, don't let the door... well, you know the rest.

I'll ask this again. If you don't want to upload, why do you feel the need to tell everyone? It's obvious you're looking for something else. Or as Royal said, you are just trying to stick it to the screeners.


User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 49
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

Don't forget to "plug your own photos with some silly comment when it's really nothing special" in all different forums before you leave...

Door Open During Flight! (by CYEGsTankers Jul 9 2006 in Civil Aviation)
A Hole In The CRJ Fuselage? (by CYEGsTankers Jul 13 2006 in Tech Ops)
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/2631085
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/2599635
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/2235588
etc.


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9603 posts, RR: 69
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2024 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

No, the shot I was referring to was (I believe) a Westjet 737.

User currently offlineCYEGsTankers From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 245 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2018 times:

Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 9):
Your ability to plug your own photos is really amazing.
To make it easier for all the others

Umm.. Very cute, you think of this in an internet cafe? And that was a link for Click.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 11):
Or as Royal said, you are just trying to stick it to the screeners.

Umm.. At what point did I state that? I stated the restrictions were too high throughout the site.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 11):
Oh well, don't let the door... well, you know the rest.

Umm.. Why do you even bother responding to my posts? Really, email me if you must.

Quoting FlightShadow (Reply 7):
Are you simply quitting because you no longer take interest, are you "retiring" at the end of a long, enjoyable "career" of aviation photography, or do I sense some hostility? If it is the latter, why have a hissy fit over a rejected photo? Take a deep breath and move on. It's not that hard. Don't leave us out cold just because a shot (or a few) got rejected.

Didn't say I was quiting, stated that I was taking a break, rethinking if that's a better word for you.

Quoting CYEGsTankers (Thread starter):
Micheal Carter might not be the only one...

Note the dots...

To keep it short, it's been MANY rejected photos, and no I'm not lacing them here. There have been corrections made to them as well as appeals. Also I have taken many deep breaths and seen that photos that have taken some effort in getting, yes, effort as in a car being stuck, being hassled by RCMP, chased off by farmers, although they are from PUBLIC roads, be swept away.

As I stated, I'm taking a break.
Richard


User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2000 times:

Your initial post didnt say anything about taking a break.

User currently offlineCodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1917 times:

Sounds to me more like a threat to temper the screeners not to reject photos ? It's getting out of control. At least try to post something sensible with some constructive arguments.

KS/codeshare



How much A is there is Airliners Net ? 0 or nothing ?
User currently offlineBoeingOnFinal From Norway, joined Apr 2006, 476 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1902 times:

Who cares about acceptance ratio and that stuff? When I watch these great photographs in here, I think that this photographer is awsome to produce something like this. I don't look at the acceptance ratio. It's what's in here that counts, not the rejected photos that we can't look at anyways.

Keep sending in those great images, and it don't get accepted, try again. That is what makes this site so great, good quality. Not quantity or acceptance ratio  Smile



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User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1879 times:

Quoting CYEGsTankers (Reply 8):
(I'll take a break for now and check back in when I can afford a
multimillion dollar lens)

One of my most recent acceptances was taken with a point-and-shoot camera (Canon Ixus 800).



Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
User currently offlineTimdegroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 65
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1861 times:
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Just had a look at your rejections and except from the latest one I see only correctly rejected shots.

You also don't need $1000s worth of equipment, especially when you have ramp access. I'd say a few hundred $ would be sufficient.

I honestly don't see the point of this post, and frankly I think you're just doing this to make us look bad.

Tim



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User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1832 times:

Quoting Timdegroot (Reply 19):
I honestly don't see the point of this post, and frankly I think you're just doing this to make us look bad

 checkmark 

Its sad to see you leave over an issue like that. Did you re-edit the shot and upload it?

Regards
Colin  Smile


User currently offlineFlyfisher1976 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 804 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1818 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 18):
One of my most recent acceptances was taken with a point-and-shoot camera (Canon Ixus 800).

Good for you....sounds like you got lucky.

Quoting Timdegroot (Reply 19):
Just had a look at your rejections and except from the latest one I see only correctly rejected shots.

In your opinion...and here lies the problem...such a wide range of opinions and standards used by the screeners = inconsistent screening results. Getting pictures accepted here is more often a lottery than anything else. Different screeners on different monitors with different opinions on what is acceptable. Apparently, despite many discussions and opinions on how we could make the process more standardized and fair little is likely to change.

Quoting Timdegroot (Reply 19):
I'd say a few hundred $ would be sufficient.

 laughing 


User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 29
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1810 times:

Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 21):
Good for you....sounds like you got lucky.

To quote Tiger Woods: "The more I practice the luckier I get".

[Edited 2006-09-19 13:06:42]


Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
User currently offlineTimdegroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 65
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1804 times:
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Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 21):
In your opinion...and here lies the problem...such a wide range of opinions and standards used by the screeners = inconsistent screening results.

No in the opinion of many different screeners who rejected his shots. Very consistent I'd say.

Tim



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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3905 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1785 times:

Quoting CYEGsTankers (Reply 14):
photos that have taken some effort in getting, yes, effort as in a car being stuck, being hassled by RCMP, chased off by farmers, although they are from PUBLIC roads, be swept away.

Sounds like you are in fact frustrated because you no longer have access.

If you have something to say worth discussing, why not do so when starting the thread. You're talking so vague and incoherent.



The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad (Salvador Dali)
25 Flyfisher1976 : Comparing the acceptance standards on this site to any other "game" is rather silly. The only parallel I could draw is if each time Tiger hit the bal
26 Viv : I do not agree with the parallel you draw. While I agree that there is some (probably inevitable) inconsistency in the screening process, nevertheles
27 Post contains images Ptrjong : Very much agree with Viv and with BoeingOnFinal in Reply 17. It's perhaps a pity you cannot see your older rejected pictures any more. I bet you woul
28 DC3 : I sense that some of the frustration is coming from people who are trying to be more adventurous in their photography and have technically good shots
29 Post contains images Kukkudrill : Canon A510, 3.2 megapixels: Guess I'm lucky too. Charles
30 Post contains images Flyfisher1976 : That's what it sounds like. Show me a couple hundred shots from a photographer with nothing more than P&S gear accepted within the past 6-12 months.
31 JumboJim747 : Priority for shooting pictures. 1- Shoot and have fun shooting. 2-Enjoy your friends company and smell the lovely jet fuel vapours. 3- Enjoy editing y
32 Aero145 : Sorry, I can. Look at my shots from beginning (April 18, 2005) to late December 2005, 95% taken with Canon DIGITAL IXUS i, the first version. David A
33 Post contains images Acontador : Cheers to that Alan!
34 IL76 : To play in a band, it takes a few hundred $ to get a decent guitar that doesn't detune constantly... Otherwise you keep practicing alone in your garag
35 Kukkudrill : Well, if it comforts you to believe that ... I started shooting with a DSLR last December. From September 2005 (12 months ago, as per your requiremen
36 Linco22 : Why are people so critical? This is an aviation website, database of top quality photographes and a great forum to boot. Is this place really that imp
37 Post contains links Aero145 : Richard. I think I remember you saying once in a thread that you bought a Canon 1Ds Mark II... If you still own it, why don't you use it for Av-Photo
38 LHRsunriser : Sorry what on earth were u lot talking about again? apart form argueing? Cheers Dom
39 Post contains images Thierryd : Yep, should be enough; a few hundred $ to the screeners for every shot you upload should be enough to get them accepted Thierry
40 Mikephotos : A few hundred? That's all? You mean I've been sending Tim $1,000 checks for nothing? Oh darn... Mike
41 Post contains images PUnmuth@VIE : Good find But it looks like he still needs the lense to attach to the body
42 Post contains images Aero145 : Thank you Peter.
43 Jhribar : This is indeed what it's all about! To be out in the field and shooting some interesting aircraft. I have to admit though that sometimes when a shot
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