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Difficult Light... Do It Works?  
User currently offlineXenon From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 494 posts, RR: 12
Posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Hi,

Uploaded an Air China picture but after several hours(!) working on it, it looks that I can't have it "correct"...

The light was damm difficult!

Anyone some advice?

Thx,

Daniel

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/IMG_4356-B2496-1.jpg


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User currently offlineFly747 From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1497 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

It needs more contrast, looks a bit flat.

Ivan


User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11503 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

Looks like the shot was heavily backlit. Have you considered using curves?


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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2378 times:

Yes, some more contrast, and that reflection is a little distracting. I guess it will depend on what screener you get that will determine whether it is too distracting.

Harry



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User currently offlineXenon From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 494 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2378 times:

DLX,

Indeed, most of the lightsource is in the 'back' of the picture; thats why the
back is so strong lighted.
I guess that you can't have a correct exposure with such picture!?

It was a 20s exposure. (sportmetered in the B767 fuselage)

Didn't play with the curves.

cheers,

Daniel

Thx Fly747.



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User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11503 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2373 times:

I'd try curves and expand those highlights a bit, while also expanding the shadows. Don't know how much can be done with it though. Is it a RAW file?


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User currently offlineXenon From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 494 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2361 times:

DLX,

Its a RAW file.

Will trying with the curves meanwhile.

Thx,

Daniel



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User currently offlineXenon From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 494 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2344 times:

Hi all,

Ive reworked the picture:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/IMG_4356-B2496-anet.jpg

Also a tighter crop and better contrast.

What do you think?

Cheers,

Daniel



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User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11503 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

Definitely better. I'd expand those highlighs even more. But I just noticed you have a grass problem. Personally, I like the grass, but I know that other shots have been rejected for motive when they had their wheels partially obscured by grass.


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User currently offline9V From China, joined Aug 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2335 times:

Any chance you could post the original?

User currently offlineXenon From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 494 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2326 times:

Ian,

I've sent you a private mail.

Daniel



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User currently offlineAvro85 From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 236 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2305 times:

The second try is much better than the first one Daniel.
Although it's a difficult shot it's definitely worth trying to edit it  Wink You don't get the Air China every day in Brussels :p I saw it today but couldn't take a picture unfortunately.....

Take Care
Chris


User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3064 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2286 times:
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This is a very impressive attempt Daniel - well done.

If you feel I may be able to help at all, just send me an email. I can imagine how much you want to get this one accepted - you have put a lot of effort in, both at the time you took the photo and in the edit, by the sound of it.

Cheers.

Paul


User currently offline9V From China, joined Aug 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2268 times:

I'm sure you could help him Paul. It's shot in RAW but unfortunately I have never done RAW in my life! (yes, I know I should but don't know where to start). I'm sure someone on here can help. I really like it.  Smile

User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3767 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2221 times:

Hi Daniel,

I like the motive, if you send me the raw file I'd love to give it a try.

Take care,

Florian



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User currently offlineXenon From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 494 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

Hi all,

Thx for the offering help! Much appreciated!!

Florian, Paul,

Ive sent you both an email.

Chris,

Indeed its a rare sight in BRU!

Cheers and see you sometimes.

Daniel



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User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3064 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2120 times:
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Hi Daniel.

I have emailed you earlier on, but just in case you didn't receive it I will post here.

Here is a first attempt at your photo.

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 622kb
Alternate version of Daniel's Photo

As you will see, I have made quite a change to the 'temperature' of the shot. This is more in keeping with my personal preference - to me it looks more 'realistic' and less 'cold' than your linked version above, which looked rather blue overall to me. However, if that was the 'feel' that you were trying to achieve, just let me know.

I still think there are some other issues with the edit - the overexposed areas, sharpness in the nose area and flare particularly. But I wanted to check out your - and others - views regarding the overall feel of the shot in this edit before proceeding further.

Cheers.

Paul


User currently offlineDomokun From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

Quoting Xenon (Thread starter):
after several hours(!) working on it, it looks that I can't have it "correct"...

I seriously hate that feeling. Your second attempt looks better, though I think the photo is honestly more work than it's worth. Some areas in the photo are really underexposed while some areas (the background) are overexposed.

You could fix them but it'd take awhile.

I really like the shot though, it's a pretty interesting angle  Smile


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