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Help With 'quality ' Rejection Please.  
User currently offlineNucky From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 32 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5116 times:

Hello evryone....

I'm looking for a few pointers here to help me improve the quality of this shot.

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...ain?filename=20060923_EBF_0012.JPG

Although dissapointed at the rejection, as always, I'm looking forward to the challenge and learning from the more experienced of you out there, ways to improve my results.

Many thanks in advance for your suggestions/help...
Regards, Paul. cheerful 

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User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5106 times:

Hi Paul,

How are you keeping? What exactly was the shot rejected for? I can see it is tricky with the light being behind you in some way. It also seems oversharpened on the building behind although the heat haze from the engine probably contributed to that.

Regards
Colin  Smile


User currently offlineLasham From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 226 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5095 times:
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Quoting Nucky (Thread starter):
dissapointed at the rejection

What was it rejected for?

Tony



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User currently offlineNucky From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5083 times:

....sorry guys, rejection was for 'image quality does not reach the high standards....'

thanks for your time...P.


User currently offlineMygind66 From Spain, joined May 2004, 1058 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5080 times:

Hi Paul..

Beautiful light and plane. Love those fan blades!
I see some jaggies and is oversharpened.

Hope that helps..

Enrique


User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1671 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 5066 times:
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In a recent thread there were complaints about quality rejections and their lack of specifics. The generic quality rejection, and I have seen plenty myself, says that there are faults, possibly minor and this image by Nucky is a good example.
At an instant glance it is a nice image and almost certainly a redeemable one.
There are several faults, all minor, but which contribute to a valid quality rejection.
As pointed out by Enrique it is slightly oversharp. Enough for a rejection on it's own ?
Probably not !
As Linco22 points out, the lighting is tricky. I see it as a touch dark and a quick play with the curve brightens it up beautifully. Would that being slightly too dark, be enough for a rejection on its own?
Perhaps, but perhaps not.
I am certain that if Lasham had got in before me he would have pointed out a slight green cast, probably not enough for a rejection on its own. I added a mere 7 units of Magenta and the cast went.
However, our lovely shot we started with now has three minor faults all of which TOGETHER add up to a quality rejection.
Now go away and put all three right and I am pretty sure that we will all be seeing it soon !
Perhaps a littlle insight into how I, a Screener in Training, would look at it may help explain this rejection.
Nucky, I hope this helps
Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineNucky From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 5046 times:

....Wow!!! That's a 'quality' explanation Mick, thanks for that...it certainly does help....back to the drawing board for me! scratchchin 

User currently offlineAcontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5017 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
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Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 5):
In a recent thread there were complaints about quality rejections and their lack of specifics. The generic quality rejection, and I have seen plenty myself, says that there are faults, possibly minor and this image by Nucky is a good example.
At an instant glance it is a nice image and almost certainly a redeemable one.
There are several faults, all minor, but which contribute to a valid quality rejection.
As pointed out by Enrique it is slightly oversharp. Enough for a rejection on it's own ?
Probably not !
As Linco22 points out, the lighting is tricky. I see it as a touch dark and a quick play with the curve brightens it up beautifully. Would that being slightly too dark, be enough for a rejection on its own?
Perhaps, but perhaps not.
I am certain that if Lasham had got in before me he would have pointed out a slight green cast, probably not enough for a rejection on its own. I added a mere 7 units of Magenta and the cast went.
However, our lovely shot we started with now has three minor faults all of which TOGETHER add up to a quality rejection.
Now go away and put all three right and I am pretty sure that we will all be seeing it soon !
Perhaps a littlle insight into how I, a Screener in Training, would look at it may help explain this rejection.
Nucky, I hope this helps
Mick Bajcar

Excellent Mick, really just great!
But wouldn't it be possible to just add a personal saying "slightly oversharp, a touch dark, slight green cast" instead of just "quality", particularly in this case since it's a really nice pic? Just asking... Big grin



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User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1671 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 5000 times:
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Quoting Acontador (Reply 7):
But wouldn't it be possible to just add a personal saying "slightly oversharp, a touch dark, slight green cast" instead of just "quality", particularly in this case since it's a really nice pic?

On the face of it, yes and a lot of the time we do.
However, multiply that by 50 or 100 of times a day and we all know what would happen to the queue.
Nucky has taken the sensible route and come here for advice. As pointed out by others on that other thread, less subtly than I will, we are here to screen not advise but we do try to do both as much as possible.
My comments to Nucky were intended to show how a good looking image like his can with closer assessment, screening, can move to bad quality. Nucky's have three small faults, a lot of bad quality shots can have a lot more when time would rapidly become an issue.
Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineAcontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 4996 times:
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Thanks Mick, appreciated  Smile


Just sit back, relax and have a glass of Merlot...enjoy your life!
User currently offline9V From China, joined Aug 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4902 times:

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User currently offlineNucky From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4847 times:

... bouncy ...that's me, thanks for the help guys!

User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4831 times:

Lovely shot Paul glad it got in .
And to Mick a (screener in training ) Mate you sound like you have been doing it for years and doing a dang good job of it too
Just great insight and your a great help when you give advice.
Cheers



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