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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5353 times:

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8346/cdgbk8.jpg


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User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3353 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5345 times:

Do I understand it right that it is allowed to make pictures of planes as long as there are no airport buildings on it? There are a few final approach spots on the perimeter that would still be allowed if this where the case.


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User currently offlineSean377 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1225 posts, RR: 41
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5293 times:

Quoting Petertenthije (Reply 1):

By saying "any object", does that not imply that taking photo's of aircraft is prohibited too (until they leave the "security restricted area" that is).



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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3906 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5283 times:

'You cannot photograph any object, facility or building without permission.'
That obviously includes aircraft.

However, this is valid only if it's for private purposes.
So it's OK to make photos for espianage purposes biggrin 

Peter Smile



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User currently offlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2044 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5270 times:

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 3):
However, this is valid only if it's for private purposes.
So it's OK to make photos for espianage purposes

And commercial??

But by saying "in the security restriceted area," that should mean that is is legal to take photos of planes on final before they cross the airport fence?



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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5254 times:

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 4):

But by saying "in the security restriceted area," that should mean that is is legal to take photos of planes on final before they cross the airport fence?

Yes that is it saying, but I don't want to mess with a French Cop on this. On the other hand when I stand in the approach path and photograph I'm not able to see the signs at the fence Big grin

Which airport was it taken?

Georg


User currently offlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2044 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5248 times:

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 5):
Yes that is it saying, but I don't want to mess with a French Cop on this

Now that leaves so much room for poor-taste jokes about the history of French-German relations....  Wink

However, I do see what you're saying, and I don't like messing with cops either. Especially the ones in Nassau, stoking their machine guns while giving you a lecture like some sick psychopath.

But the last bit makes me wonder: Do the respective authorities have a "spotters office" where you could register and obtain the necessary permission? While I am all for civic liberties, I do understand security concerns, and if they can implement some system that enables enthusiasts to enjoy their hobby AND make sure that spotting is not going to be abused by the wrong folks, that may be the way...



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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5233 times:

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 6):
Do the respective authorities have a "spotters office" where you could register and obtain the necessary permission?

Don't think so it's something like the "You can do it if I allow the thing I would never allow to you!"

Georg


User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5210 times:

The picture is from the french forum "Eurocockpit" and was taken at CDG...


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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5203 times:

What a joke, but hey, it's their airport, their rules.....

User currently offlineGary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5182 times:

Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter):

Did the photographer of that photograph have written permission signed in triplicate while in the presence of 2 independent adjudicator's to witness the aforementioned signing of the aforementioned document to take the aforementioned photograph!


User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5181 times:

Quoting JeffM (Reply 9):
What a joke, but hey, it's their airport, their rules.....

Unfortunately...but Paris has to offer more than CDG....can remeber having seen a movie called "One night in Paris" Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin

Georg


User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3906 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5162 times:

If I'm not mistaken, there was a thread here recently in which it was said that the required permission was actually easy to obtain.

Peter Smile



The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad (Salvador Dali)
User currently offlinePhotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2719 posts, RR: 18
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5152 times:

I read and understand this sign in a totally different way.

Where it says..."It is forbidden to take photos or to film for private purposes from the public area any object, facility or building in the security restricted area.........."

I read this to mean that while YOU are in the "CDG PUBLIC AREAS" you cannot photograph as outlined. To me this means the public areas enclosed within the CDG property. Such as the terminals, parking lots, etc.

I don't take this to mean that if you are outside the airport on other public lands that you cannot aim your camera inside the fence.

Would take a damn lawyer to argue this one in court. But who wants to be the trial case?


User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3906 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5126 times:

Quoting Photopilot (Reply 13):
To me this means the public areas enclosed within the CDG property.

Sounds far-fetched to me. 'Zone public' probably does mean public lands.

Anyway, what matters is not what it says on the sign but what it says in the full text of Arrete prefectoral 06-3206. You're supposed to know the law.



The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad (Salvador Dali)
User currently offlineLurch From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5086 times:

It means if you point a Camera at any thing at the Airport you can get a Hefty Euro fine.

But if you get permission which i hear is fairly easy and get the Bit of Paper needed then the Police and Airport officials are out of luck!


User currently offlineDC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1406 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5046 times:

Quoting Petertenthije (Reply 1):
There are a few final approach spots on the perimeter that would still be allowed if this where the case.

Lol - presumably this is the case. Rather you explaining it to the French Police than me though  

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 6):
Now that leaves so much room for poor-taste jokes about the history of French-German relations....

German Police seem fine, but France......

Quoting JeffM (Reply 9):
What a joke, but hey, it's their airport, their rules.....

Ineffective, unworkable and I guess quite costly to the French taxpayer. I just don't know who thinks them up.

Edit: typo.

[Edited 2006-10-16 02:13:10]


Obviously missing something....
User currently offlineLurch From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4978 times:

http://www.af001.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2597&start=0

If you can read french this will explain it all in detail as my friends on www.af001.com Have been sorting out this mess with the Local Government / Mayor Involved in this money making Exercise!

Here is the PDF File on the above info it is in French!

http://jplemaire.free.fr/af001/ARRETE_POLICE_CDG_05_4979.pdf

[Edited 2006-10-16 14:50:09]

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