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User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1982 posts, RR: 23
Posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3745 times:

On the following rejected photo, I was given the comment by a screener that I'm a bit naive about. I didn't do anything out of the ordinary in the processing of the shot so if anyone could comment or assist with their findings, I'd appreciate it. Problem may have been the low light at 0645am?

"Jeffrey, excess shadow highlight or similar"

Shot rejected:
http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...ame=20061019_N823ALhnljsdevore.jpg

Thanks in advance,
Jeffrey


"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3720 times:

Quoting A340Spotter (Thread starter):
"Jeffrey, excess shadow highlight or similar"

Might be in reference to using too much of the 'shadow/highlight' recovery tool. It leaves dark areas a little muddy. And ordinary to you, may not be ordinary to others.


User currently offlineDiezel From Netherlands, joined Oct 2002, 646 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3714 times:

Talking about flower power, great livery, nice catch  cloudnine 

The shot lacks contrast and looks a bit unnatural. Brightened up a bit too much maybe (possibly with the shadow/highlight tool as the screener mentioned).

Roel.



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User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1982 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3675 times:

Thanks Roel,

Generally when I'm editing, the only items I'm using when using Photoshop 7 is the brightness/contrast and the hue/saturation/lightness tools. Nothing else was used. That said, with the early morning departure and the way the clouds were with light/dark grey cloud layers (you'll see this shortly with my Island Air DHC8-400 shot that's in the queue process), it may be hard to improve otherwise? Will go back to the drawing board and maybe go easier on the brightness (never go above +5 generally but may have gone as high as +15 here)...

Further comments appreciated
Jeffrey



"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1691 posts, RR: 61
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3660 times:
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Jeffrey
It was me that left you that comment and as JeffM says, it looked like excessive use of the damned shadow/highlight tool. In particular the whites look very muddy which is a symptom of using the highlight bit. Shadows also tend to be muddy and smoky when that tool is used, not shown on yours.
It is interesting to see that you are using the brightness control which is a pretty useless tool. I would suggest learning to use levels (Ctrl+L) or better still, Curves (Ctrl+M) (though are they on PS7?).
I hedged my bets in saying or similar as it looks as though you have managed a similar effect without the damned shadow/highlight.

Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1982 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3657 times:

Mick,

Appreciate the comments and thanks for clearing that comment up. I've only brought it to the forum's attention as I'd like to get this shot uploaded, of course, being a nice and surprisingly low shot subject (only 1 I believe otherwise of it on the site).
Will have another go at it, or may ask someone with more skills than me on the PS side to have a go at it (don't usually ask but again, a worthy addition if it can be done IMO).

Cheers
Jeffrey



"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3064 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3605 times:
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Hello Jeffrey.

Take care of Mick - even the mention of the shadow/highlight tool sends his blood pressure up  wink .

I have just had a very quick look at your photo and the histogram shows that it can be improved a lot by some simple editing. The graph explains why whites are looking so grey. Let me know if you think I can help out. Also you need to watch out for jaggies there.

Cheers.

Paul


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9668 posts, RR: 68
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3576 times:
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Curves have been in PS since I have been using it.

Which was PS 3 on a Mac, wikki wikki wikki


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3526 times:

Damn hope it can be saved what a great shot!  bigthumbsup 

User currently offlineLasham From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 226 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3493 times:
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Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 5):
or may ask someone with more skills than me on the PS side to have a go at it (don't usually ask but again, a worthy addition if it can be done IMO).

Hi Jeff

Happy to have a go for you, just send it my way.

Tony B



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User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1982 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3457 times:

Appreciate the comments and help that's being offered. I'm all for learning how to improve shots and as it seems this one has some merit to it, let's see what we can do.

Thanks
Jeffrey



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