ThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2021 posts, RR: 52 Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2533 times:
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Quoting Psych (Reply 2): Is that the pilot flaring or is he trying very hard to gain height and clear the fence?
If you try to gain height you do NOT raise the nose of your plane at this stage of the flight since this would only make you loose speed, the plane would stall and drop on the ground like a stone.
Flaring on the other hand should take place over the runway and NOT over the beach...
Psych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 2968 posts, RR: 60 Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2520 times:
Quoting ThierryD (Reply 4): If you try to gain height you do NOT raise the nose of your plane at this stage of the flight since this would only make you loose speed, the plane would stall and drop on the ground like a stone.
Flaring on the other hand should take place over the runway and NOT over the beach...
Thierry - maybe I should have put a smilie at the end of my statement - my question was not serious. Would your professional 'diagnosis' be that the pilot has simply misjudged the landing? His wheels must be dreadfully close to the top of the fence in another 10 metres or so.
ThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2021 posts, RR: 52 Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2504 times:
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Quoting Psych (Reply 6): Would your professional 'diagnosis' be that the pilot has simply misjudged the landing?
Well, it's always difficult to judge without actually seeing the whole approach but since I know this place I can tell you that they are well below the glidepath and with SXM having a displaced threshold there's absolutely no reason to do so with a small plane like this Falcon.
And that's as much as I'm gonna say about it...
JakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4741 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 2461 times:
I must admit the person sitting on the beach towel must have had one hell of an experience - but at the same time the last few seconds of the approach over the beach must have been quite scary (for those on board too!)!
Ptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3771 posts, RR: 20 Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2403 times:
Sorry, I thought you might want to know.
It sure is VERY low.
A Falcon 20 stands 5.32m (17ft 6in) tall on the ground.
There's considerably less than that under the a/c where the guy is sitting.
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Sulman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2028 posts, RR: 35 Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2381 times:
He wouldn't be the first pilot to increase AOA if he feels a sink coming on - that's how some of the A321 tailstrikes have happened on landing - it's a completely natural thing to want to do in the face of the ground suddenly getting rather close - as a student pilot you'll have plenty of times where you'll do exactly that!
USAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 54 Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2345 times:
Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 10): How cool would have it been to touch a tire as it went by?
Sounds like a good way to break a finger or wrist at best...
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Jat74l From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 618 posts, RR: 16 Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2334 times:
Having been stood exactly in the same spot as the photographer all I can do is shake my head.
It's all very well having great shots of big jets at Maho but there is NO need for this size of aircraft to be SO low over the beach. The person at the controls is either incompetent or irresponsible.
Still, it's a great shot despite of (and because of) the clown in the cockpit.
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Linco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1379 posts, RR: 18 Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2105 times:
A thread on the forum at flightlevel350 questions wether or not this is genuine. Someting about the shape and form of the shadows in relation to the height of the aircraft.
Jorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3141 posts, RR: 9 Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2084 times:
Quoting Jat74l (Reply 14): The person at the controls is either incompetent or irresponsible.
Do you want to start another thread about a pilot not knowing how to fly a plane right from Flight Simulator controls? I doubt he would fly a plane when he don't know how to do that. We all have done slightly mistakes were it was very close to an accident when driving a car.
Bizjetslover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2042 times:
First of all: Congratulations to Robin for that pic. Well done, mate! I'll buy you a Big Tasty next time if you give me that file to make a poster out of it )
This Falcon seems to be a frequent "low-lander" at SXM according to pictures on other sites....
To the ****** at flightlevel350.com: I have never been on that site before, but it took me less than a minute to find this movie on their very own site:
A340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1973 posts, RR: 26 Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1958 times:
I also congratulate Robin on the photo, definitely opened my eyes!
What I do find possibly disturbing is a trend here at SXM. A "How low can you Go" trend, mainly with the corporate and freight dawgs who may be trying to one-up their mates out there as they know there's likely a photographer there to capture their "incredibly low" approach to SXM. Just a thought to throw out there...
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25 Rotate: Hello Guys and Girlz Thx vm for all the kind words ... I think I dont have to answer the question if its real or not .... (Especially big kudos to Mik
26 Psych: Nice to hear from you Robin. Enjoy your holiday! I am pleased to see that the video mentioned above had been posted on the thread at '350' - conclusiv
27 Jat74l: No I don't and I don't play on flight simulator either mate. Of course there may be a completely plausible reason why the aircraft is so low over the
28 Aero145: Interesting, Robin's photo was taken September 29th, but the video was uploaded September 13th... Hmm! Did the Falcon come on 11th, and then again lan
29 Bizjetslover: The Falcon is a regular visitor at SXM, there are pics of it on other sites at various dates. I've never said that the video showed the actual landing
30 Aero145: On this site too, just saw that. I know you didn't, but I was just double-checking. Got ya!
31 Linco22: I hope I didnt come across like this, it wasn't my intention. I do believe this image is 100% real. I just thought I'd mention that it was questioned
32 53Sqdn: Well folks, if SXM is 'boring' then what about the endless shots from other airports? Just to name a couple. We have Manchester and Amsterdam. Same vi
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