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User currently offlineAirplanenut From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 643 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 8 months ago) and read 757 times:

Hi,

What is the exact rule on having people in photos? Obviously, this pic needs a better scan, but I haven't worked on it since I was told that there can't be people in pictures. The other photos are ones that I have found with other people pictured in more detail than in my photo (I don't mean to be rude or anything, I happen to like all of these photos a lot, but I just wanted to point this out). I have tried cropping the people out, but then the picture is very unproportional.




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Jeremy Katz



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User currently offlineScreener3 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 646 times:

The dude is staring at the camera. Generally speaking "we" accept photos
if the people ADD to the scene and if their faces are not clearly shown.

This is a good example, in addition to the shots you posted.

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User currently offlineAirplanenut From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 643 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 626 times:

What if I blurred the face? Personally, I can't see anything bust his beard.

Jeremy


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User currently offlineScreener3 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 619 times:

Personally, I would still reject the photo on the people grounds (assuming the scan was improved)

My reason: People do not add anything to the photo. If the people were watching the plane land, or waving it off, or something, I'd pass it to Johan who would make the final decision.

User currently offlineAirplanenut From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 643 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 609 times:

Do they really detract from the pic? I was as close to the plane as possible to get the entire thing in the picture... the people boarding just happened to be there...

Jeremy


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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3598 posts, RR: 29
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 611 times:

Actually, I am a big fan of people in the photos. Take a look at my selection sometime.

However as S3 said as long as no visable faces are evident, it should be alright. Also make sure that the individual does not overpower the aircraft, i.e. is the main subject. As for your photo, well I like it (save for the poor scan) although the ladie's (I believe this is a female) head at the bottom portion bugs me......it seems to through the photo a little off balance. As for the face of the bearded man, well to my eyes, I see no reongnizable features, such as eyes so it may pass.

BTW where was this taken, Hafia ?....Tel Aviv ?..

Thomas


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User currently offlineDee-see-eit From Spain, joined Jan 2000, 435 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 574 times:

For me the whole photo composition is not good enough to get accepted. The people in the foreground are taking all the importance of the real subject: The aircraft. I would accept though it if only the guys at the rear door were on the shot.

Once I told the admin to please accept cockpit shots, even if the pilots were looking at the camera or their faces were clearly visible (like the incredible Mogren's cockpit shots). Why this? Because pilots like to permit to take photos if you tell'em you will show them at a.net, so they can tell their friends and family "hey look at this page, thats me on the pic". This has two positive sides:

1. They will allow us more often to take cockpit shots
2. A.net will get known among flight crews, which benefits all contributing photogs.

In any case, the events of Sept. 11th are actually spoiling all these oportunities and we surely have to wait some time to get some kind of cockpit access during (difficult) or after the flight.

Regards
DC8



User currently offlineDee-see-eit From Spain, joined Jan 2000, 435 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 582 times:

Just forgot one thing...

Take a look at this pic I submitted some days ago and which was also rejected for the same reason. What do you think?

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=763-guy.jpg

Regards
DC8



User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 572 times:

A little PS magic can go a long way. I cloned a person out to get the shot in (still wondering why not even a warning  Smile/happy/getting dizzy )

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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 551 times:

apparently not. Screener told me the only reason it was rejected was because of a mech so I removed the mech  Smile
I did not add anything and made sure the alteration was visible (check under the tail, next to the guy whose legs are visible. There used to be a mech in a bright orange jumpsuit there).
I did ponder for a while whether to do it, then decided to do it in a way that was visible but not intrusive.
I would never ADD anything btw.


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User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4161 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 548 times:
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Yes I ckecked the photo before i read you reply and saw where the manipulation was done. I dont wanted to be offense to you it was just a question.
Peter


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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 535 times:

no offense taken. I don't like doing things like that too much. I never remove lightpoles for example, despite them looking very weird sticking up out of white aircraft. No changing the weather either of course  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


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User currently offlineA380-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 531 times:

Hi everyone,

When I uploaded this shot...


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...I was wondering if it might get bounced for the "person in shot" reason. I mean, it's not like she's adding to the shot - she is this shot.

I'm not sure how "recognisable" she is though - she'd know who it was...and her mother might...but would you recognise her if you saw her in the street...?

And this shot...


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...I wondered if the F/O might get into trouble (see the comment on the shot) if his employer saw this....or maybe Sir Richard prefers his flight crew to "chill out" en-route!

Again...he would recognise himself but you can't really see his face...

But I was very happy  Smile when they got added.

Cheers,
Dean

User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3052 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 521 times:
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I would imagine that this photo (one of the older ones in the database) does not meet present standards.  Smile

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User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2533 posts, RR: 53
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 516 times:

Sorry a litttle bit off topic......

Dean wrote:
"...I wondered if the F/O might get into trouble (see the comment on the shot) if his employer saw this....or maybe Sir Richard prefers his flight crew to "chill out" en-route!"

Why would he get into trouble......all the times I have been on the flight deck, mostly international flights over the atlantic....that is how they make themselves comfortable.....


Ok back to the topic....

I sometimes wonder myself what the rules are......
Some pictures clearly show the face or at least you could identify that person and the picture was added to the database anyway....

I doubt that the photographer has the written approval by the person.....


Vasco


User currently offlineAdministrator From Sweden, joined May 1999, 3251 posts.
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 527 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
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Regarding the photo ID 190661, it has been removed from the database and the photographer has been warned that if this happens again we'll remove ALL his photos from the database.

It should be very clear to any user of this site that we do not accept such alterations. It is clearly expressed in the upload-FAQ.

Johan Lundgren


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User currently offlineAirplanenut From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 643 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 484 times:

The picture was taken August 2, 2000 in Eilat... it was one of two commercial planes at the airport... the other an ATR flying for Israir. The VISA shot that I have was taken once I landed at Tel Aviv Sde Dov.

Jeremy


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User currently offlineScreener3 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 469 times:

I wonder why that one shot with the kid (?) in the cockpit waving was kicked back. I don't have any problem with that personally...

User currently offlineFredrik Hjort From Sweden, joined Apr 2001, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 448 times:

When people that you point the camera at smile or look happy and ok with you taking that photo I personally think that they allow you to take the image... Using the image shouldn't be a problem then!?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

The kid in the cockpit is an acceptable shot I think.

/Fredrik

User currently offline9A-CRO From Croatia, joined Jun 2000, 1574 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 446 times:
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I have some shots from an airhow where are some people (pilots, and some other helpers) visible is this photo acceptable - after all they willinmgly agreed to participate in public show


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User currently offlinePaulc From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 432 times:

These 2 pictures have people in them but i guess the subject matter helped swing in there favour plus the people are to one side of the aircraft


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