Acontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1392 posts, RR: 33 Posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2257 times:
Hi Everybody,
I would like to hear your opinions on these two shots taken at the Imperial War Museum in London. The P-51 Mustang is well documented in the DB, but there is only one more picture of the FW 190 (maybe enough to justify backlit?).
Btw, the FW 190 was a nightmare to level ...
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Ptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3770 posts, RR: 20 Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2239 times:
Andres,
I don't care for the Mustang shot, the tail is sort of cut, the suspension cable running across the cockpit is rather prominent and the background is noisy.
I do like the Focke-Wulf, but I think you made a mistake with the leveling. I think it needs 2.2 degrees CCW rotation to make the center of the frame vertical, based on the surrounding poles.
Peter
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Acontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1392 posts, RR: 33 Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2207 times:
Hi Peter,
You must be kidding, that's exactly how much I rotated it CW in the first place !!! I told you, for me this was a nightmare to level...
What I did was in the end to level it based on the V2 rocket to the right (in the original file more can be seen), and I just supposed that it must have been vertical, so rotated the image accordingly. Was I wrong???
On the Mustang, I cannot do anything regarding the cables, and I cropped it with the wing clipped, since there were some people behind whose faces could be reckognized .
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Dlednicer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 506 posts, RR: 6 Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2187 times:
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On the Fw 190, I'd level it so that the columns at the left and right edges lean in equally. The column closest to center should be vertical or close to it. You also need to play with the curves a little to lighten the aircraft. You were shooting towards a light source that was behind the aircraft and this causes the aircraft to be a little too dark. Make sure you tell the screeners in your screener remarks how you leveled the shot. I find this helps.
Shooting in museums is tough. Peter and I both have been through it...
Ptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3770 posts, RR: 20 Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 21 hours ago) and read 2156 times:
Quoting Acontador (Reply 2): What I did was in the end to level it based on the V2 rocket to the right (in the original file more can be seen),
The V-2 doesn't look vertical. That may be odd but I'd leave it alone. The poles should be much more reliable.
Quoting Dlednicer (Reply 3): I'd level it so that the columns at the left and right edges lean in equally. The column closest to center should be vertical or close to it
I figured that the left pole is leaning about 2.35 degrees and the right one minus 0.55 degrees, difference 2.9 degrees, and that the centre is at about a quarter of the distance between the two. Thus the centre is leaning about 2.2 degrees.
People with a good eye may have a good laugh at this method, but it works for me.
Quoting Acontador (Reply 2): I cropped it with the wing clipped, since there were some people behind whose faces could be reckognized
I'd personally clip it a bit more then.
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