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Is This OK For A Beginner?  
User currently offlineEMA747 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 1170 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4815 times:

Hi,
I want to start aviation photography and was wondering if this set up sounds any good? I have read post about this and how an expensive lense is very important but my budget is limited. I just want to know if this will take good photos (good enough to get in the database here) and if its ok for a beginner, I am not a photography beginner just aviation photography beginner.

Canon 400D
Tamron 70-300mm F/4-5.6 LD Macro
could get Sigma 70-300 for same price but as the Tamron is noramlly £200 and the shop is doing a deal to get the Tamron for £100 I guess its better to go with that?

Thanks for any help/comments

Andy S


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User currently offline9V From China, joined Aug 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4799 times:

The Tamron 70-300mm F/4-5.6 LD Macro On the down side: lots of chromatic aberration and very cheap build, but for £100 that is more than acceptable.

User currently offlineAvsfan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 250 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4743 times:

Not sure how much difference there would be between the Tamron 70-300mm for a Canon or Nikon camera, but my 70-300mm for my Nikon D70 has served me well over the past 2 yrs. As my main lens for telephoto shots, it works well even after 13,000+ photos.


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User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4670 times:

May I recommend the Canon EF75-300 USM III instead of the Tamron. A friend of mine owned the Tamron and swapped it for the Canon because the former was too soft.

Karl


User currently onlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4663 times:

Quoting EMA747 (Thread starter):
I am not a photography beginner just aviation photography beginner.

You will also need lens for close up and wide angle shots. Something like a 18 - 200mm lens. This in addition to your 70 - 300mm lens.

While spotting at a local airport a month ago, a pilot came up to me and offered to allow me take shots of his Citation jet. Unfortunately I had only a 70 - 300mm lens on me and missed a wonderful opportunity to take cockpit and cabin shots.
 banghead 



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User currently offlineEMA747 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 1170 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4633 times:

Quoting Alibo5NGN (Reply 4):
You will also need lens for close up and wide angle shots. Something like a 18 - 200mm lens. This in addition to your 70 - 300mm lens.

Should have said that I already have an 18-55mm from my previous canon.

I actually bought the camera and lense (Tamron) today and its charging as I write this. Might go to EMA tonight or tomorrow and try it out.  Big grin
Bought it from Jessops as they now do price match even on stuff of the internet, and they were very friendly and helpful.



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User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4601 times:

I was at EMA today, nothing but a few BMI Babys and Ryanairs.....

On another note, you'll need something better than the 18-55 kit lens, which is about as much use as a chocolate kettle! The gap between where the kit lens finishes (55mm) and where the Tamron starts (70mm) is extremely significant, and without a replacement for the 18-55 you'll struggle sometimes. In addition, the 18-55 is not renowned for its image quality.

Try the Canon EF28-105mm F3.5-4.5 USM II, a great full-glass lens available for around £190.

Karl


User currently offlineEMA747 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 1170 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4564 times:

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 6):
Try the Canon EF28-105mm F3.5-4.5 USM II, a great full-glass lens available for around £190.

Might try that when I get some more money.

Didnt make it to EMA today, might go tomorrow (sat) insted. Anyone know what time of day is best on a Staurday as I havnt been at a weekend for a while?



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User currently offlinePicturethis From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 196 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4524 times:

Hi Andy,

My set-up is similar to yours, 300D, 18-55mm, 75-300mm IS USM.

Saturday afternoons are best, I would avoid the late morning 9am-12pm section as its very dissapointing traffic wise I felt.

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 6):
On another note, you'll need something better than the 18-55 kit lens, which is about as much use as a chocolate kettle!

Although there is better than the 18-55mm, I feel it is more use than a chocolate kettle, i've managed to get some decent photos out of it.

Ryan

[Edited 2006-11-04 12:54:04]


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User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4480 times:

Quoting Picturethis (Reply 8):
i've managed to get some decent photos out of it.

Me too, my comment was more a parody than a serious note. I would, however, recommend people buy body only and spend the cash saved on a better lens - unless you purchased second hand and it happened to come with the 18-55.

On another note, spent the day at EMA today (Sat, 10:00-14:30), came away very happy. Kalitta didn't turn up but a nice colourful Hungarian An-26 did.....!

Also, a BA EMB-145 (with 'Connect' titles) did a few circuits early afternoon - better get 'em quick before they get swallowed by FlyBe.

Karl


User currently offlinePictureThis From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 196 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4464 times:

Hi Karl,

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 9):
Me too, my comment was more a parody than a serious note. I would, however, recommend people buy body only and spend the cash saved on a better lens - unless you purchased second hand and it happened to come with the 18-55.

I see what you mean now. My was second hand and the 18-55mm came with it.  Smile

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 9):
On another note, spent the day at EMA today (Sat, 10:00-14:30), came away very happy. Kalitta didn't turn up but a nice colourful Hungarian An-26 did.....!

Some decent weather today, good to hear you came away pleased! When I go over at weekends its early afternoon or something along those lines. I had a bad experiance one Saturday morning last year about 10AM and saw about 3 planes in about 1 and a half hours, so i've avioded that time ever since!

PictureThis



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User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4399 times:

Quoting PictureThis (Reply 10):
I had a bad experiance one Saturday morning last year about 10AM

I also had bad experiences at EMA this time last year, however things have picked up of late, especially with all the new RYR destinations.

I'm a pretty patient person so I don't mind sitting there for hours on end waiting. Besides, it get's me away from the missus! Sometimes my wait is in vain, but part of the thrill at that place is never really knowing what's gonna turn up.....

Karl


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