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Please Help Me To Level This Pic  
User currently offlinePitchul From Luxembourg, joined Jan 2005, 121 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5885 times:

Hello,

I've just got a rejection about this pic :

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...20061102_SINSHEIM-229edita.net.JPG

Raison : Unleveled with personal message from the screener : "needs CW rotation"

I have check the pic again, but for me, the pic is leveled,

Look at this close-up on the post who's carrying the front gear :

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/1100/closeupyy6.jpg

What do you think ?

Appeal or not?

Thx

Manu

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User currently offline9V From China, joined Aug 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5876 times:

Quoting Pitchul (Thread starter):
I have check the pic again, but for me, the pic is leveled

It does indeed look like it needs some CW rotation (roughly about 0.5).


User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4007 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5876 times:

No, the poles and staircase clearly do lean to the left in my opinion.

If you zoom in too much, anything becomes straight.

I'd draw a line from the small light spot between the nosewheel and the pole above, and the gap between the two poles below. Then you have a long vertical that should be pretty reliable.

Peter Smile



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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5749 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5868 times:
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Manu,
I would be more radical with the rotation I am thinking more like 1+ CW
The trap you appear to have fallen into is you have leveled on the lower section of the nosegear support which by looking at other pics in the DB is clearly not vertical.
Something else to consider is motiv, or how the next screener will consider the motiv.. There are many pics of this aircraft in the DB (283 & 60 or so at Sinsheim) so common is also likely, and this to me is a rather featureless silhouette with a fairly unremarkable sky.
Just my  twocents  worth, but then I am not a huge fan of planes on poles, If they can't be flying I like them where I can see detail or touch!!

Cheers



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User currently offlineDazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2934 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5858 times:

I'd use the verticals of the staircase to level this shot. This is rotated 1.5 degrees clockwise:
Big version: Width: 1121 Height: 760 File size: 149kb

I think it looks more level now.

Darren



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User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5841 times:

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 3):
Something else to consider is motiv, or how the next screener will consider the motiv..

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Robin



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User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5838 times:
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I think you should start over with the original uncropped photo. Use the two rear poles (next to stairs) and the vertical pole between them as your reference points for levelling. Use the grid on PS to guide you. You are attempting to level a tightly cropped photo which may expose you to motiv issues.  crossfingers 


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User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5829 times:

Quoting Alibo5NGN (Reply 6):
You are attempting to level a tightly cropped photo which may expose you to motiv issues.

Well, not directly. I think this shot is getting motive as I think shilouette shots doesnt do good on static a/cs, which are sitting on poles.Additional that wing from another A/c on the left is distracting ... , anyway , just my opinion.

Robin



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User currently offlinePitchul From Luxembourg, joined Jan 2005, 121 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5807 times:

Thank you for your help, hope it's ok now :

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/SINSHEIM-229edita2bis.jpg

Emmanuel


User currently offline9V From China, joined Aug 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5804 times:

Quoting Pitchul (Reply 8):
Thank you for your help, hope it's ok now

 no 

Visible grain and what looks like compression on the right hand side.


User currently offlinePitchul From Luxembourg, joined Jan 2005, 121 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5703 times:

Thank you for your help  Smile


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Manu


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