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User currently offlineJetCrazy From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 68 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3019 times:

Hi !

this is not good enough to be accepted: *wonder* http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/....main?filename=20061104_D-AVRC.jpg

The answers of the screeners get a little absurd in the last days. If I check the newest uploads this day, there are lots of pics with less quality than this one. What do they want ?

bye
Jens

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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3009 times:

I like the photo, but would say it isn't centered, and is un-sharp in a few areas. Not hard to fix. Others here will ask you to list the rejection reasons....

What do they want? Fix those issues and find out. Simply appeal the image and tell the screeners why they were wrong. It's not hard.


User currently offlineKSUpilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3005 times:

I happen to think it is a very nice image, and maybe I have bad eye sight, but I really don't see where it would be considered poor quality.

I also like how it isn't centered, I guess the screeners like even margins on all sides, but to me that isn't art, that's like writing an essay.

I've seen worse images of LH Bae-148's. Well if it means anything to you, I just added it to my "Aircraft" folder, so it is now a part of my computer's screensaver.  Smile


User currently offlineJetCrazy From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 68 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2997 times:

here´s the correct link:

Gehostet bei Pic-Upload.de


User currently offlineAirfly From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 322 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2994 times:

Hey Jens,

It's surely a nice picture, but I can spot the poor quality here. Have you played a bit too much with the highlights of the pic? it appears to me that you have, brining up a lot of grain.


Cheers
Lucca M.

[Edited 2006-11-05 00:59:55]


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User currently offlineAviopic From Netherlands, joined Mar 2004, 2681 posts, RR: 41
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2943 times:

Quoting JetCrazy (Reply 5):
That´s what i call grainy....

Yes......... but those are Fokkers and yours is not  Smile



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User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2942 times:

Quoting JetCrazy (Reply 5):
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1124784/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1130051/L/ (grainy, soft....)

That´s what i call grainy....

That's what's called bad style. Critisizing other peoples photos.



[Edited 2006-11-05 10:05:58]


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User currently offlineJetCrazy From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 68 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2933 times:

Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 7):
That's what's called bad style. Critisizing other peoples photos.

this again.....if you put a picture on an online database you have to live with agrees and not agrees...

I can live with your post about my "bad style"....


User currently offlineTriStar501 From Austria, joined Feb 2004, 92 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2932 times:

Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 7):
That's what's called bad style. Critisizing other peoples photos.

 checkmark 

As well there are no other photos of this Fokker in the DB and photos from Sudan are not very common ....

- Andreas



I don't re-upload ...
User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2891 times:

I am amused and puzzled by the hyper-sensitivity of some regarding criticism of accepted photos.

Anyone who uploads here is putting his shots on public show. No one complains when his shots are praised ("Photos with a high S. P. Value"...) so why should they complain when shots are criticised?

If criticism is not acceptable, praise should also not be acceptable.

The shot under discussion here is nice, but is too low in the frame.

Inconsistency in screening can never be totally eliminated, given the large number of shots screened and the fact that there are a number of screeners. Overall, the screening process work reasonably well, within the constraints of the rules for acceptance, some of which are certainly worthy of debate.



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User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2864 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 12):
so why should they complain when shots are criticised?

Because the photos went through the screening process and are not worth to be critisized by some armchair screener using them as example why his great shots should be accepted.

Quoting Viv (Reply 12):
If criticism is not acceptable, praise should also not be acceptable.

Thats mixing apples with bananas.



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User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2854 times:

Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 13):
Thats mixing apples with bananas.

Nope. Praise and criticism are two sides of the same coin.

By the way, Peter; Heard you were at ELLX recently ....

[Edited 2006-11-05 12:35:25]

[Edited 2006-11-05 12:36:41]


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User currently offlineJetCrazy From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 68 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2836 times:

Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 13):
... some armchair screener using them as example why his great shots should be accepted.


when there is nothing reasonable to say, we try it with some verbal slander....great deal Mr. Unmuth !

[Edited 2006-11-05 13:21:07]

User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4005 posts, RR: 18
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2831 times:

Quoting JetCrazy (Reply 15):
Du manövrierst Dich in eine unseriöse Ecke.

He's damned right. And speak English here.

Peter



The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad (Salvador Dali)
User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2782 times:

Quoting JetCrazy (Reply 14):
[Edited 2006-11-05 13:21:07]



Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 15):
Quoting JetCrazy (Reply 15):
Du manövrierst Dich in eine unseriöse Ecke

I guess the edit was too late .  laughing   laughing   laughing 

Quoting JetCrazy (Reply 14):
when there is nothing reasonable to say

Why not start with saying something reasonable why your pic should be accepted instead of singling out others photos.  scratchchin 



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User currently offlineJetCrazy From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 68 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2764 times:

Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 16):
Why not start with saying something reasonable why your pic should be accepted instead of singling out others photos. scratchchin

No. Not worth to say anything to that at all. I´m ready with that. There are more important things to do. I´ll go outside with the dog to kill a tree....  Wink

Have a nice evening.

Bye
Jens

-----over and out-----


User currently offlineAviopic From Netherlands, joined Mar 2004, 2681 posts, RR: 41
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2721 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 9):
I am amused and puzzled by the hyper-sensitivity of some regarding criticism of accepted photos.

I never did either.

Quoting Viv (Reply 9):
Anyone who uploads here is putting his shots on public show.

Stick your neck out and there will always be someone to chop it off quite happily. Big grin

Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 10):
Because the photos went through the screening process and are not worth to be critisized by some armchair screener using them as example why his great shots should be accepted.

Have to disagree Peter.
We are all criticized by everything we do, that's life.


A writer might be very happy with his new book which was very carefully screened by his editor, still he has to face the critics from his audience who read it from their armchair.
Something that applies to anybody doing whatever job.


Infect I would suggest a lot more critical threads here at our very own forum about our own uploads.
After all we don't improve from the praises but from the critics we get, I think.



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User currently offlineTimdegroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2721 times:
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There is a difference between critcism and effectively saying that your own photos are better than others' which I think it bad taste.

Tim



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User currently offlineAviopic From Netherlands, joined Mar 2004, 2681 posts, RR: 41
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2719 times:

Quoting Timdegroot (Reply 17):
There is a difference between critcism and effectively saying that your own photos are better than others' which I think it bad taste.

Fully agree Tim.
I was not referring to this thread in particular but more in general.
Of course what I meant is about proper and funded critics which has nothing to do with "mine is bigger then yours".
Sorry for forgetting this fundamental statement but I though that it would be obvious.



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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4005 posts, RR: 18
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2692 times:

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 13):
He's damned right.

It seems I was a bit unclear about whom I thought was right here.

Peter Unmuth was, in my opinon, damned right when he said:

Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 10):
Because the photos went through the screening process and are not worth to be critisized by some armchair screener using them as example why his great shots should be accepted.

Peter is not saying that criticism can never be given, he's only objecting against the 'my-rejected-picture-is-better-than-this-or-that-rejected-picture' rants that rarely make sense.

Peter de Jong Smile



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