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My First Photo Usage Request, Help Please!  
User currently offlineNicolasRubio From Argentina, joined Sep 2005, 584 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6927 times:

Hi everyone, I have just received the following e-mail:

Quote:
Hello Nicolas. I am helping Editor Jay Selman of Airliners Magazine with the photos and also for the Airliners gallery blog. We are possibly interested in using your shot of the PLUNA 737-300 in the revised new colors. If selected Airliners Publications will send you $10 USD (via Paypal) + a copy of the magazine. If you can help please send me a high res scan (300 dpi that is at least 7.5 inches or 19 cm wide). Thank you in advance.

Bruce Drum

This is the photo in question:


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Photo © Nicolas Rubio - Argentina SpottingTeam



What should I do? I was thinking of asking where will the photo be in the magazine, in which size and how many prints will be made... Am I on the right track?

Thanks in advance guys!


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User currently offlineGabypn1992 From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6927 times:

Do it. Its a good opportunity for you!!! And I really like your picture!!!  Smile


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User currently offlineFightingDingo From United States of America, joined May 2004, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6907 times:

Wherever the photo is in the magazine, it is worth more than $10.

Zach


User currently offlineFlightShadow From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 968 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6888 times:

I would do it. It gets your name/photo in a fairly popular magazine, many will say that $10 is enough but me personally, I take airplane pictures because I like airplanes, not because I want to make money.

Again, just personal opinion, but I'd do it.



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11336 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6884 times:

Quoting FightingDingo (Reply 2):
it is worth more than $10.

Not when they can just ask someone else.



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User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6878 times:

Both nice guys, do it.

Justin


User currently offlineCYEGsTankers From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 245 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6865 times:

I'm in a deal where $300 CDN is the subject. I'm not mentioning which airline, but the deal is genuine. Get the best dollar for your photo. The extras are secondary. They come naturally, as a perk for the deals.
Richard


User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6862 times:

Quoting CYEGsTankers (Reply 6):
I'm in a deal where $300 CDN is the subject. I'm not mentioning which airline, but the deal is genuine. Get the best dollar for your photo. The extras are secondary. They come naturally, as a perk for the deals.
Richard

You compare apples with oranges. Magazines usually pay standard rates, and you hopefully realize they're far below 300 Dollars.

Nicolas, it's very unlikely they would pay you more. Either accept and get USD10 plus a mag with your photo in it or decline and get nothing. You choice.



Jet Visuals
User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6834 times:

As many other ssaid, get the 10USD and the mag for free. You can get more when selling to companies/airlines, but that's a differenet thing. I got one sold to an advertising agency for 225 Euro while two to Aero International Magazine for 28 Euro.

Georg


User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6828 times:

Don't do it for $10.


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User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6815 times:

DO do it for $10. You put your pictures on display here on A.net (for like-minded enthusiasts across the world to see) for free, so what's the difference in doing so in magazine format?

It ain't gonna be used for commercial purposes (well, not in the real sense of the word anyway), so $10 is not to be scoffed at. Besides, lots of people from across the globe will see your work.

If you're in this game for the money only, don't let it go for that amount. If, however, you truly have a love for aviation then sell it and put your name about in respectable publications such as Airliners.

Karl


User currently offlineFUAirliner From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 538 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6805 times:

Quoting INNflight (Reply 7):
You compare apples with oranges. Magazines usually pay standard rates, and you hopefully realize they're far below 300 Dollars.

Nicolas, it's very unlikely they would pay you more. Either accept and get USD10 plus a mag with your photo in it or decline and get nothing. You choice.

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Airliners is a magazine for enthusiasts that pays standard rates for pictures in their news section. It is up to you if you accept their offer, but they will use another photo if you don't. And IMO the compensation they offer is fair enough.


Frank



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User currently offlineNicolasRubio From Argentina, joined Sep 2005, 584 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6788 times:

I sent the photo, I hope it gets selected to be printed on the magazine!

Thanks to all for the input!

Nicolas



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User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 41
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6784 times:

He is not doing you a favor by selecting your photo, giving you a VERY small $10.00 and then trying to satisfy you by dangling the magazine at you....He and all other editors know that AT LEAST $75.00 AT LEAST... is the going mag rate...
Mark G


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11336 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6774 times:

Quoting Tappan (Reply 13):
He and all other editors know that AT LEAST $75.00 AT LEAST... is the going mag rate...

Mark, as much as I admire you and your work, I just don't know if this is still true. The simple fact that if he says no, the editor can find some other person for $10 means that the rate isn't $75 anymore. DSLRs have changed everything, especially considering that the OP's photo, while good, is not particularly remarkable. (As in, no flames shooting out of engines, etc.)



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User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 41
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6767 times:

DLX...
Thanks..
You know, you are correct... I agree....but I think it should at least be $25.00 or $50.00..
They probably have a small budget...
Mark G


User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 41
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6760 times:

Also, I think we should all try to avoid copying and pasting a personal e-mail..
I mean, this man e-mailed a request to Nicolas and now the e-mail is public..
Not cool.
Mark Garfinkel


User currently offlineGabypn1992 From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6739 times:

Quoting NicolasRubio (Reply 12):
I sent the photo, I hope it gets selected to be printed on the magazine!

Thanks to all for the input!

Nicolas

Good!!! You take the good choice.

Quoting FightingDingo (Reply 2):
I would do it. It gets your name/photo in a fairly popular magazine, many will say that $10 is enough but me personally, I take airplane pictures because I like airplanes, not because I want to make money.

I agree with you!!!  Smile



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User currently offlineCYEGsTankers From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 245 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6693 times:

Quoting CYEGsTankers (Reply 6):
I'm in a deal where $300 CDN is the subject. I'm not mentioning which airline, but the deal is genuine. Get the best dollar for your photo. The extras are secondary. They come naturally, as a perk for the deals.
Richard

Quoting INNflight (Reply 7):
You compare apples with oranges. Magazines usually pay standard rates, and you hopefully realize they're far below 300 Dollars.


INNflight, I didn't say it was a magazine...so, here I'm saying it's not a magazine, and I'm not mentioning what it's uses are. Lets just say it "could" be sized 12'X18'.....
Deals being finalized this week.

Quoting FightingDingo (Reply 2):
Wherever the photo is in the magazine, it is worth more than $10.

Fightingdingo is correct with this, I've had a few in magazines before and there worth 4X this.

Richard


User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6686 times:

Quoting CYEGsTankers (Reply 18):
I didn't say it was a magazine...so, here I'm saying it's not a magazine

And thats why you where comparing apples with oranges. The original request was for a magazine for airline enthusiast.  Wink



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