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User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3188 times:

Hello!

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0993861/M/ - great picture! I would
like make this pichture for my own needs. Is it possible to receive from
you original size picture. No commercial use - only for house decoration.

In any case thanks.

Best regards,
_______________


Hello,
You can buy a print from me for your interior decoration.

Regards,
Chad Thomas



How many does it cost? Is it possible buy a file? Just if I buy a
print I have to pay for delivery.

Regards,
_____________


Dear __________,

I sent you the pricing info. I am not going to give photos away for free. That is becoming more and
more of an issue these days. Folks always looking for freebies.

Take care,
Chad


Dear Chad,

My answer is NO, thank you. I need HiRes file for editing and printig
out here, and I don't want to pay for delivery.

Regards,
_____________


Well ___________,

Since I said that I would PAY for shipping of the print (included in
price) it leaves me thinking you had a clandistine motive here. Why
would anyone give up a hi-res version... for free?! You have a lot to
learn.

Good day. Please dont email me with Bullshit like this anymore.

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User currently offlineMygind66 From Spain, joined May 2004, 1058 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3175 times:

Hi Chad...

You've been very polite IMO.. and (this person) wasted your time.
Take care

Enrique

[Edited 2006-11-06 23:54:04]

User currently offlineMongorat From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 165 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3139 times:

Thanks Chad...I had hoped to frame the photo and hang it on the wall in my living room....but whatever.

-Matt L


User currently offlineWakeTurbulence From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3123 times:

HAHAHAHAHA! Matt you crack me up!
-Matt



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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3072 times:

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Thread starter):
Please dont email me with Bullshit like this anymore.

Good line. Why didn't I think of that?!

...definitely going to use it though...  Wink


User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3065 times:

Quoting Mygind66 (Reply 1):
You've been very polite IMO..



Quoting JeffM (Reply 4):


Good line. Why didn't I think of that?!

...definitely going to use it though...

I just call it like I see it.  Smile


User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 5):
I just call it like I see it.

I think after you showed us the emails thats the way we all see it.
Well done Chad hope this will stem this sort of emails that i know a lot of us get on here and we are sick of them .
Cheers



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11354 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3045 times:

not to nit, but where did you say you'd pay for shipping? did you send him a price sheet on an attachment that said it?


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User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3023 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 7):
not to nit

What exactly do you call it then? Of course I sent him my asking price. It probably didnt matter if I did or didnt as he was dead set on me giving him the file for free. I wasted my time, as Enrique stated.


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11354 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3018 times:

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 8):
Of course I sent him my asking price.

that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that unless there is more conversation that we're not seeing (as in, perhaps on a price sheet), then he might not have known that you were paying for shipping. I couldn't tell...

It's quite possible, even likely that you wasted your time with this dude. But it's also possible that there was a simple miscommunication.



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User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3012 times:

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Thread starter):
Dear __________,

I sent you the pricing info. I am not going to give photos away for free. That is becoming more and
more of an issue these days. Folks always looking for freebies.

Take care,
Chad


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11354 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2999 times:

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 10):
Dear __________,

I sent you the pricing info. I am not going to give photos away for free. That is becoming more and
more of an issue these days. Folks always looking for freebies.

Take care,
Chad

No where do you say you'll pay for shipping.

 Yeah sure



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User currently offlineCosec59 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2942 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 11):
No where do you say you'll pay for shipping.

Maybe, just maybe it's included in the pricing info.
You know the thing, p+p extra @ £1.75 etc


User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2886 times:

Cosec,
you got it.


The only miscommunication involved was the word pay wasn't in his vocabulary.


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11354 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2871 times:

Quoting Cosec59 (Reply 12):
Maybe, just maybe it's included in the pricing info.

Which is EXACTLY WHAT I WAS ASKING!!! My fellow wolverine could have just said "it was included in the pricing info" especially after I asked if it was included in the pricing info... Some people want to be cute though.

Quoting D L X (Reply 7):
did you send him a price sheet on an attachment that said it?

 Yeah sure



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User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2842 times:

dlx,
the point was that he wanted the hi res so he could print the photo himself. No way was I going to give it to him. He was just using the shipping thing to to try to help in getting it. I included the shipping price in the overall price, even a bit less than I normally ask... (gotta put food on the table ya know  Wink )

My apologies for not making that perfectly clear.


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2814 times:

I think the person in the wrong here is you.

The bloke is asking for a file, not a print. In his second email he makes it clear, twice, and he's considering paying. In his third post he makes it clear (and English isn't his first language) that he wants a file, not a print, so that he can edit it and doesn't have to pay for shipping etc. Instead of politely telling him that you're only willing to send a print (presumably to reduce the chance of theft), you shout and swear at the guy.

His first language clearly isn't English, yet the one who doesn't understand what's being asked is you. Hopefully others on this forum have more of a knack of making money than you.


User currently offlineWakeTurbulence From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2792 times:

@ 777236ER - I don't know if I would lecture Chad on how to make money from photos. He has had more sales for more money than a vast % of people on this site.
-Matt



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User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 59
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2777 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 16):
I think



Quoting 777236ER (Reply 16):
In his third post he makes it clear (and English isn't his first language) that he wants a file, not a print,



Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Thread starter):
I need HiRes file for editing and printig out here

Ah well  Smile

Quoting WakeTurbulence (Reply 17):
He has had more sales for more money than a vast % of people on this site.

Which yet doesn't mean he's right...  Smile



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2070 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2768 times:
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HEAD SUPPORT

Chad, I wouldn't try to tell you how to handle your photo sales but in this case I think you and "your buddy" were talking at cross-purposes. As 777236ER supposed, I guess the guy was really only looking for a file and not a print so he could maybe edit it for his own needs. Also this would not have cost him a thing as you could have sent it via e-mail (if you agree to send free files for personal use is another story  Wink).
It was probably just a misunderstanding which the guy was unable to get over due to a language barrier.

Thierry



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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2768 times:

Quoting INNflight (Reply 18):

Ah well Smile

I meant he wants the file from Maiznblu_757, not a print from him.


User currently offlineBeechcraft From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 828 posts, RR: 41
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2737 times:

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 19):
if you agree to send free files for personal use is another story

Now if i´m not mistaken, that is the story all along. Chad didn´t want to give him a full res size for free, because he feared that the guys wouldn´t just print a poster from it, right?

Denis



That's it! You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college!
User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11354 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 15):
dlx,
the point was that he wanted the hi res so he could print the photo himself.

I hear what you're saying, and I pretty much agree. If someone were to ask me for a file, they'd be suspect. His purpose was 95% probably impermissible.

I just wasn't clear that he knew that you had solved his shipping problem by providing a suitable alternative. Now I am. (Well, I'm sure you told him. I am not sure he understood.)



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User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2702 times:

Lets be real here. Most people wouldn't pay the price of a hi res file and in my limited experience offering a print has had positive results. To me the initial email sounded like he wanted it for free as he didn't state he would be willing to pay for the file. When I offered him a print he asked for the price. Furthermore he stated that he didn't want to pay for shipment of a print. I did include shipping in my overall price and told him that. The price of the print was cheaper than I normally charge. To me the whole kaboodle sounded fishy.

Florian, you are absolutely correct, what works for me may not work for you or anyone else. I can live with the possibility I blew a sale because I didn't feel right about it... I can only imagine that its easier than say getting burned because I was careless.


User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2686 times:

Damon,
I didn't see your post previous to my last post.

I agree with you for the most part.


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