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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4650 posts, RR: 50
Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2666 times:

Hey guys (and girls),

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...61107_PH-XRW73GHV23okt06AMS_JR.jpg

Got this shot rejected for motive (after a soft rejection). I like the shot and don't agree with the rejection, but I'm a little biased Wink. What do you think? Appeal or keep it in the personal files?

Jurgen


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User currently offlineEngineergreg From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2657 times:

Keep this one for your personal files. Rear of the aircraft is generally not too interesting, there is too much clutter, and the aircraft in the background is very distracting. This is not to mention that the top of the horizontal stabilizer and the end of the right-hand vertical stabilizer have been cropped off.

Just my thoughts........


User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3884 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2648 times:

Jurgen, I love the atmosphere and have no problem with the rear view, but the Transavia aircraft doesn't fill the frame enough I think. One's eyes are drawn to the tarmac in front of it.

Peter Smile



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User currently offlineFYODOR From Russia, joined May 2005, 653 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2632 times:
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Engineergreg, what to do if rear of aircraft is interesting for me and I enjoy other planes at the picture? I've no right to see it, I'm a bad guy with no fancy?

I think good background is the very important for the picture - it make it alive, not tasteless and boring. It is just my feeling as well.  Wink


User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2061 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2616 times:
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Jurgen, I absolutely like your photo as it is a real airport action shot that wonderfully shows what is going on during a maneuver as simple as a pushback. And though it won't help you with your issue of getting it accepted here I can tell you that it already found its way into my personal collection.  Wink

Another A.net loss...  Sad

Cheers,

Thierry



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User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2616 times:

Rear of the aircraft is fine, and nothing cluttering the view of the aircraft. I think the cutting off of the right elevator is what caused this. Maybe a tighter crop around the aircraft itself and centreing it a bit better should help.

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 4):
Another A.net loss...

They lose out a fair bit even if they don't know it...


User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4650 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2611 times:

Thanks for the comment guys. I will try a tighter crop tomorrow, but I personally didn't like it.

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 4):
it already found its way into my personal collection.

Is that actually legal?  Wink. Thanks for the comment!



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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2563 times:

Quoting JRadier (Thread starter):
What do you think?

I don't like that angle. I wouldn't have taken it in the first place.


User currently offlineTomTurner From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 247 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2551 times:

Quoting JRadier (Reply 6):
Thanks for the comment guys. I will try a tighter crop tomorrow, but I personally didn't like it.

Jungen, I agree with you; probably nicer "as is". I like it anyway.

Maybe try one from scratch next time, for a.net?


User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

Quoting Engineergreg (Reply 1):
there is too much clutter, and the aircraft in the background is very distracting. This is not to mention that the top of the horizontal stabilizer and the end of the right-hand vertical stabilizer have been cropped off

I agree with greg the engineer...

And its a little dark

Regards
Colin  Smile


User currently offlineAcontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1417 posts, RR: 31
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2453 times:
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Hi Jurgen,

A.net aside (if that's possible), I love the shot and certainly shows your high night time photography skills. The angle is no problem for me (but I know a lot of people who don't like to see behinds, aircraft ones I mean  Wink ), and I really like the overall "busy airport" atmosphere, particularly because of the background.

Now, regarding A.net standard, I think the motive rejection comes from the distracting background, something which you cannot really change, and thus I would have to say: keep it for your (and our) personal collection.



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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4650 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2398 times:

Thanks a lot for your comments (even via e-mail),

I made a cropped version but I don't like it as much. Still thinking about appealing the rejection.

Curious what you think of the new edit:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3658/phxrw73ghv23okt06amsjrcvr2.jpg

Jurgen



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User currently offlineKSUpilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2376 times:

Personally I liked the original, but it's still worth a shot! Good luck!  Smile

User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 47
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2352 times:

Jurgen,

I like these kind of shots. Lot's of atmosphere in it. Unfortunately a clipped tail and not centered are probably one of the reason for the rejection. Nonetheless a neat shot!

Like Tom already mentioned, go out there start from scratch and bring home an a.net type shot.

Vasco G.


User currently offlineGertLOWG From Austria, joined May 2005, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2309 times:

Hello!

I got a motive rejection for this photo, a long time ago. I want to upload it once again, but I don´t know, if it is good enough?

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 341kb


Here is the original photo:

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 685 File size: 283kb


Best Regards!

Gert!


User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2061 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2287 times:
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Quoting JRadier (Reply 11):
Curious what you think of the new edit:

Still a nice shot but I like the first edit better as it has more breathing space; on the 2nd one the aircraft looks like it had been put into too small a box.  boxedin 
I'll keep the 1st one in my personal collection if you don't mind.  Wink

Thierry



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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4650 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2242 times:

Quoting AKE0404AR (Reply 13):
Like Tom already mentioned, go out there start from scratch and bring home an a.net type shot.

See you in a year  Wink.

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 15):
Still a nice shot but I like the first edit better as it has more breathing space; on the 2nd one the aircraft looks like it had been put into too small a box. boxedin

Agreed, that is why I won't upload the 2nd edit.

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 15):
I'll keep the 1st one in my personal collection if you don't mind. Wink

Well......  Wink

But rejections keep rolling in. Got this one rejected for quality. Is it the grain? Is it something I don't see?

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...061109_PH-BQG772KL02aug5AMS_JR.jpg

Jurgen



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User currently offlineAcontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1417 posts, RR: 31
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2234 times:
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Hi Jurgen,

Well, this one I can see, look at the sky/sea to the left and the wing, there is some grain visible. Still a shame about the night shot, though  cry 



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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4650 posts, RR: 50
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2212 times:

I'll re-edit the wingview, that's not much of a problem I guess. I do however keep trouble with the motiv. I guess the problem is that I cropped the engine of the transavia.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...61110_PH-BXO739KL23okt06AMS_JR.jpg



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