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User currently offlineFlugnord From Iceland, joined Feb 2006, 94 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3376 times:

would these very old pictures from 1050 of a plane crash be acceptable to the db?

http://212.30.203.209/gitarsnilli/airliners/tf-rvcsept1950.jpg
http://212.30.203.209/gitarsnilli/airliners/tf-rvksept1950.jpg

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User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3364 times:

1050? You mean 1950?

The quality is not good, and it seems that they've been JPG compressed a lot!

Who took them? If you don't know, I highly doubt you'll get them into the DB.

However motiv, I think the first one doesn't show enough of an aircraft, it looks like a whale, upside-down.


User currently offlineWallace From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3287 times:

Some people can't see past their next Boeing 777.


"..... for beauty is written on the eye of the screener."
User currently offlineFlugnord From Iceland, joined Feb 2006, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3286 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 1):
1050? You mean 1950?

whoops, yeh I mean 1950.

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 1):
The quality is not good, and it seems that they've been JPG compressed a lot!

Nothing to do about that on these old pics.

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 1):
Who took them?

I asked my grandmother but she didn't know so I can only guess it was someone in my family.

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 1):
However motiv, I think the first one doesn't show enough of an aircraft, it looks like a whale, upside-down.



I thought it would be an interesting picture because this is of a famous air crash where "Geysir" crashed.


User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3264 times:
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Please mail the editors and screeners about this. We'd be happy to have these in our db but the copyright issues needs to be cleared up.

Tim



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User currently offlineFlugnord From Iceland, joined Feb 2006, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3253 times:

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 4):
the copyright issues needs to be cleared up.

shore thing. I'll go and dig up some answers next week.


User currently offlineFly747 From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1497 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3227 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 1):

The rules go out the window when old images such as these are involved and rightly so. You can't apply the same standard for pictures shot half a century ago...
They will make an excellent addition to the db.

Ivan



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User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3227 times:

That DC-4 used to be such a beauty too...
http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac5/ROW%20Europe/TF-RVC.html

/JM



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User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3209 times:

Quoting Fly747 (Reply 6):
You can't apply the same standard for pictures shot half a century ago...

Oh yes I can!

If those are slides that Þórður has, he can make better scans and no compression, so they will be better. I know there are lower standards for older photos, but at least the picture nr. 2 is noticably compressed. Easy to fix, if you have the orginal scan.

Quoting Flugnord (Reply 3):
so I can only guess it was someone in my family.

Yes you can guess, but don't you have to confirm?

[Edited 2006-11-18 17:44:21]

User currently offlineGary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3197 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 8):
Oh yes I can!

then thank gawd your not in charge

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 8):
If those



Quoting Aero145 (Reply 8):
if you

alot of if's there Aero  Smile

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 8):
Yes you can guess, but don't you have to confirm?

sound advice  Wink no one like's too much guessing.

just out of curiosity, and it may help Flug, how would you personally go about finding out the identity of a photographer from 56 years ago?


User currently offlineFlugnord From Iceland, joined Feb 2006, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3191 times:

Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 9):
just out of curiosity, and it may help Flug, how would you personally go about finding out the identity of a photographer from 56 years ago?

I would ask my grandmother if she knows anyone that could know that and if that doesn't work I'll go to a museum and ask somebody there if they know who took these pictures and if that doesn't work ill post some messages on the internet and if that doesn't work I'll keep them to my self!  Wink


User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 64
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3176 times:
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Flugnord

The quality of both items acceptable to the database.

I just love the first image. Quality is fantastic. Does anyone know a little more about it? Was this an expedition to the crash site or the recovery of bodies?

Regards

Gary


User currently offlineGary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3170 times:

Quoting Flugnord (Reply 10):
I would ask my grandmother if she knows anyone that could know that and if that doesn't work I'll go to a museum and ask somebody there if they know who took these pictures and if that doesn't work ill post some messages on the internet and if that doesn't work I'll keep them to my self!

you would give up before inventing a time machine! shame on you......


User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3169 times:
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That's no compression in that shot David, just the result of scanning a very old print.

Tim



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User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3147 times:

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 13):
That's no compression in that shot David, just the result of scanning a very old print.

Alright! Don't you think they could be a little better scanned? I know they're acceptable, but still it would probably be better to get even higher quality out of the shots.


User currently offlineFlugnord From Iceland, joined Feb 2006, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3140 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 14):
Don't you think they could be a little better scanned?

I scanned these shots in a very high resolution!


User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3137 times:

Quoting Flugnord (Reply 15):
I scanned these shots in a very high resolution!

Oh really, is 1024 pixels wide a high resolution?

Hmm, you maybe resized them, but how were the originals?


User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3134 times:
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David, no offense but I think you are out of your element here. Images from the 1950 just aren't the same as prints scanned from 2000.

Tim



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User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3132 times:

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 17):
David, no offense but I think you are out of your element here. Images from the 1950 just aren't the same as prints scanned from 2000.

Tim, I'm not out of my element; I just wonder if one can make those shots better than they are now. If they're acceptable as they are, that's fine for me, but nevertheless, I'll just stop commenting in this thread because I'm "out of my element".  sarcastic 

I've also got an idea that shots from 1950 aren't as good as slides from 2000.


User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3130 times:

Seriously, take a hint man... Nobody agrees with you, a lot of people are even saying that the quality is acceptable for the database.


Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineFlugnord From Iceland, joined Feb 2006, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3126 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 16):
Oh really, is 1024 pixels wide a high resolution?

Hmm, you maybe resized them, but how were the originals?

Yes i scaled them down, one of them was about 6000 pixels if i remember correctly.


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