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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11486 posts, RR: 52
Posted (8 years 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3548 times:

Hi all,

took a week off to come back to reality, and got another rejection. This time, for level. Here's the photo:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...1116_N24729_DCA_102906_DSC6817.jpg

The problem is, there's a gently sloping hill in the background, so I leveled with the vertical walls of the building. Do you have any suggestions on how I should level it?

TIA

Damon


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3541 times:

When I level I like to take a look at the whole background and not concentrate on specific poles and buildings. If you do that with yours you can easily see it's leaning ever so slightly to the right and can use a little CCW rotation. Poles are great are but for shots that have that type of landsape I like using the whole horizon as a guide.

User currently offlineFiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1013 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3507 times:

I think it could use a little CCW. I do think it has other problems however, such as dark/contrast and maybe color. Looks off to me.

Danny



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User currently onlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2046 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3502 times:

Quoting Fiveholer (Reply 2):
I think it could use a little CCW. I do think it has other problems however, such as dark/contrast and maybe color.

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I also see some jaggies and a little grain, but all of the mentioned things ought to be improvable as overall it's a great capture.



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11486 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3448 times:

Thanks for your comments!

I reedited it, and came up with this. When I rotated the shot, it wiped out the horizon mostly.

I don't know - it looks good on my screen at home, but not so great on my work screen (which is not a great screen). How does it look on yours?

Thanks again,
Damon



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User currently onlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2046 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3419 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 4):
How does it look on yours?

How does what look? You forgot the link  Wink



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11486 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3418 times:

*smacks head*

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...dy/N24729_DCA_102906_DSC6817_2.jpg

I made the mistake of drinking with people from Wales this weekend. Lots of fun, but apparently, the effects haven't worn off.



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User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2465 posts, RR: 44
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3401 times:

Damon
Looks better but the image looks slightly soft to me.

Quoting D L X (Reply 6):
I made the mistake of drinking with people from Wales this weekend. Lots of fun, but apparently, the effects haven't worn off.

Nice one  Smile
Cheers



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User currently offlineEdoca From Belgium, joined Mar 2005, 688 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3401 times:

Hi Damon
I think the new version is better in terms of level, but I also think you've overdone the contrast or levels adjustments - a little more contrast would be better and it's a bit soft around the nose as well. On my screen at least  Smile
Very nice perspective though!


User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3392 times:

Damon - To me, the new version has washed out colours, some parts are over-exposed and overall its soft.

User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11486 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3363 times:

okay, one more try. What do you think?

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1..._X/N24729_DCA_102906_DSC6817_3.jpg

Thanks all for your help.



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User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2465 posts, RR: 44
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3352 times:

Looks better but i think the saturation is overdone now.
Cheers



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User currently offline777MechSys From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 350 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3345 times:
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Nose is soft/ blurry.

-Erick


User currently offlineChukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1988 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3316 times:
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Some selective sharpening on the nose might help.

User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11486 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3262 times:

Rejected again! I took your advice and didn't up the saturation, and this time it was rejected for color and contrast. ???

Any thoughts? I would welcome screener input on this. Should I appeal?

Thanks,

Damon

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...27_N24729_DCA_102906_DSC6817_4.jpg



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User currently offlineJid From Barbados, joined Dec 2004, 975 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3261 times:

No chance of appeal for this one I'm afraid, the contrast is way off giving the images a very misty appearance. A full re-work for this one I would say.

Good luck,

Jid



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User currently offline777MechSys From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 350 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3251 times:
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The airplane is pink. Did CO change their colors?

User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11486 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days ago) and read 3250 times:

Quoting 777MechSys (Reply 16):
The airplane is pink.

Huh?! That's really strange.

A quick look at my photoshop eyedropper tool shows four points on the fuselage that are (RGB) = (178, 173, 180), (138, 136, 139), (117, 112, 117), and (236, 234, 237).

The sky is pinkish, that's for sure. But the plane should be pretty close to white. Does it show up pink on anyone else's monitor? And would anyone know why that would happen?



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User currently offlineJid From Barbados, joined Dec 2004, 975 posts, RR: 31
Reply 18, posted (7 years 12 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3233 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 17):
The sky is pinkish, that's for sure. But the plane should be pretty close to white. Does it show up pink on anyone else's monitor? And would anyone know why that would happen?

Make sure your color work settings are set to sRGB as this is the only color profile Windows based browsers will resolve correctly. Adobe RGB will have a 'washed out' look when viewed via the internet.

Jid



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11486 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (7 years 12 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3224 times:

Quoting Jid (Reply 18):
Make sure your color work settings are set to sRGB as this is the only color profile Windows based browsers will resolve correctly. Adobe RGB will have a 'washed out' look when viewed via the internet.

Here's my normal process:
1) I shoot RAW, with Adobe RGB color space.
2) In CS2, I edit in Adobe RGB color space
3) Before saving a JPG, I convert to sRGB
4) Save and upload.

Is this a problem? I've noticed that the A.net scripts don't seem to like handling any JPG besides those encoded in sRGB.



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User currently offline777MechSys From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 350 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (7 years 12 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3208 times:
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Here is a real quick adjustment. I think this will make the pink/red cast stand out better.

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 695 File size: 388kb


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11486 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (7 years 12 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3183 times:

Okay, taking 777Mech's advice, I've adjusted the colors. Using Jid's advice, I increased the contrast. What do you think now? Do I have a winner?

http://www1.airliners.net/uf/225/1164698093WLcLs8.jpg



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User currently offlineJid From Barbados, joined Dec 2004, 975 posts, RR: 31
Reply 22, posted (7 years 12 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3179 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 19):
Here's my normal process:
1) I shoot RAW, with Adobe RGB color space.
2) In CS2, I edit in Adobe RGB color space
3) Before saving a JPG, I convert to sRGB
4) Save and upload.

Is this a problem? I've noticed that the A.net scripts don't seem to like handling any JPG besides those encoded in sRGB.

Well your gaining nothing by working in Adobe RGB because when you do the conversion sRGB you 'loose' the colour range from ARGB and PS replaces the colour with what it thinks is the best substitution. The only advantage of using ARGB over sRGB is if you are having your shots professionally printed. Most highstreet printers, like Photobox used by a.net expect sRGB format. And again all Windows based browsers will only reproduce sRGB, any other format will washed out of have a colour hue.



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User currently offlineJid From Barbados, joined Dec 2004, 975 posts, RR: 31
Reply 23, posted (7 years 12 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3163 times:

Hi Damon, I have looked at your latest image and it still appears to have a pinkish hue to it. I have removed some of it in this modified version of your image.


Hope this helps .. Jid



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