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Bad Weather, Would Like Some Opinions Or Tips  
User currently offlineDiezel From Netherlands, joined Oct 2002, 646 posts, RR: 11
Posted (8 years 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4576 times:

I like going out taking pictures in bad weather as there is a bigger chance that something interesting might happen. I've got lots of bad weather pictures but I never really bothered to upload those pictures as they usually do not reach the quality levels needed to get accepted here.

However, I've got two which I would like to show here and ask for some advice as I would like them to enter the database but I'm not sure they qualify.

Number 1 is from a 747 popping out of the fog on a rainy day. It's obviously not your average sunny picture, there might be some quality issues here and the weird light gives it a somewhat soft/plastic look, but I've seen worse and it is an interesting picture you can't shoot every day. Is it good enough?

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Number 2 is a T7 rotating with heavy fogged engines. It is on the edge of being blurry (or maybe just over it). What do you think?

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Do you have any specific handy tips on ISO values and shutter speed for aviation photography in bad weather. I'm very interested as I know that my bad weather pictures are often more luck than wisdom.

Thanks,

Roel.


Never be afraid of what you like. (Miles Davis)
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User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 4567 times:

Hello Roel.

The 747 won't make it, the 777 neither, but still, if the 777 would have been sharp/sharper, it would have been a cracker. Just a wonderful motiv!

I tend to use f/5.6 and ISO 200 in bad weather, but it just depends on the shooter.

Well, I'd ask Tony Best... This is what he'll say:

"Don't shoot when there's no sun." He's right, actually...  duck 

Regards,
David


User currently offlineDRAIGONAIR From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 708 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 4562 times:

Indeed, if there is no sun you need higher ISO values and that doesnt really help to improve the quality of the photo!
I also have some shots from bad weather and most get rejected for quality so when there is no sun i just dont bother. They turn out to be of high grain and a big zoom wont help either, hence they dont make it!

Shame of the T7 shot, i would say try it again and hope for the same conditions!

cheers

Nick



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User currently offlineDiezel From Netherlands, joined Oct 2002, 646 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 4562 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 1):
I tend to use f/5.6 and ISO 200 in bad weather, but it just depends on the shooter

In my case it's usually a battle between DOF and motion blur with the motives I like and the quality I want. The big question is always the ISO value.

I know that my D200 is doing better in the high ISO range than my old and now gone D100 so I can use higher ISO values in bad weather, but still...decisions, decisions Big grin

Roel.



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2078 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 4557 times:
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I'd give the B747 shot a try; it has some quality issues but it's quite different from what one normally sees here and there are some really nice effects to be seen. If possible (without accentuating grain or jaggies too much) I'd add some sharpness to it though.
The B777 is a nice shot too but it's definitely blurry and since this kind of shot (KLM B777 rotating with foggy intakes) exists already 1000 or so times in the db I don't think it would make it.

Quoting DRAIGONAIR (Reply 2):
if there is no sun you need higher ISO values

... or a steadier hand!  Wink

even in bad weather I don't go for more than ISO320 (in exceptional cases 400)

Thierry

[Edited 2006-11-23 00:55:16]


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User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 48
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4497 times:

I tend to shoot as if it was a normal day. And yes, most shots come out crap.  boggled  My 10D hasn't got great high ISO capabilities, so 200 ISO is as high as I (can) go. Basically, the low shutterspeed brings in a very high 'luck-factor'. Exposure is tricky, as it's generally quite dark in bad weather. There is just too little light shining on the aircraft, causing the details to get lost in the grain.
Roel, both the 747 and 777 are blurry, the 777 the worst. Although I must say, de 777's weather is not bad, is it? I see a sunlit aircraft!  Wink

This is one of my lucky shots in the rain. I have it printed at 25x38cm (10x15") on my wall at home.  Smile


I plan to go out to the airport again this weekend after not having been to AMS for 2 months. Lets hope for some interesting weather (rain and shine!  Smile)
Cheers,
Ed


User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4482 times:

Roel,

Remember you DSLR has great high ISO capabilities. Don't let the bad weather stop you shooting, especially when you get effects like you captured on the KLM 772. I would always try to maintain the right shutter speed and DOF as you would normally. Metering can sometimes be a little trickier with dark and changing skies.

As for your shots, the 747 is too dark and is very grainy but nice motive. The 772 I think may have been soft and the nose out of focus so you've oversharpened to compensate.

Anyway, just my thoughts, keep shooting!

Regards
Colin

[Edited 2006-11-23 10:00:57]

User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4466 times:
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Roel, I wouldn't exactly call the 777 a bad weather shot, it has perfect light. I would agree with what has been said above, both will not make it.

Tim



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User currently offlineDiezel From Netherlands, joined Oct 2002, 646 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4454 times:

Thanks guys for the reactions and tips, appreciate it.

The T7 shot was taken during one of those sunlit moments between rain showers. I've got sharp pictures of that particular take-off, but I just don't like the angles from those shots. Too bad  down .

Ed, your 747 shot is just brilliant!

Quoting Linco22 (Reply 6):
I would always try to maintain the right shutter speed and DOF as you would normally

I tend to do that with my D200 now. with the D100 things were different and more difficult.

I'll try again next weekend as the weather will be bad again. The wind however might also bring something interesting  thumbsup 

Roel.



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