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Going To AUA, Need Photography Tips!  
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 4917 times:

Hi everybody,

I started a thread about AUA aircraft photography tips before but just wanted to refresh the topic since it was a long time ago.

I finally made the decision to go to AUA so I will be flying to AUA on December 16th on the first flight and will leave AUA the next day in the late afternoon/early evening. Again I would like to ask all the photography tips at AUA, such as the beach near the runway (close to the

I assume this is the location:


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I was told that the disadvantage of this location is that you have the sun in your face, is this true? When looking at the photos I don't see that much of a problem.....?


Then there is also the Renaissance Resort Island you can reach by boat (USD 25 cost). Here are two photos taken from this location:


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--> taken from the tip of the island?

I heard that this location is better because of the sun being behind you and not in front of you, but again, is this really that much different? I also heard that the tip of the island on that island near the approach path of the runway offers the best photography opportunities but when looking at the areal photo this island doesn't look so safe with a lot of rocks. How good is this location really?

And finally you have this location:


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The way I've read about this location you will need a car to get there as you have to drive all the way around the airport runway to get there (?) This makes this location less favourable as it's not so well accessable (?) Also how safe is this location, because it seems that nobody will notice you at this location as there are no houses or snackbars or hotel resorts anywhere near (?)


The airport overview showing all possible spotting locations:


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In a nutshell, you can see I have a lot of questions, so please correct me as I need all the aircraft photography tips before I go there.

So can our fellow members Edoca, AUA747, Mauriceb and Globetrekker give me their best advice? All help is very much appreciated!! Big grin

Thank you in advance.

A388  Smile

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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11272 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 4913 times:

Quoting A388 (Thread starter):
taken from the tip of the island?

Not really at the tip, but rather near the middle. You don't want to go all the way to the tip - the mosquitos will eat you alive. There's an area on the airport side of the island that has a service dock. I think I took this shot from that dock.

One thing to make sure of is to know the schedule of the arrivals, because AUA is not a very busy airport. Also note that the KLM flight comes in at a different time depending on what day of the week. (Sadly, many of its landings will be after sunset.)

Good luck! I'm jealous. I LOVE Aruba!



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 4896 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 1):
Good luck! I'm jealous. I LOVE Aruba!

Hey D L X, I see your name pop up regularly here in the forums. Which photos did you take at AUA? And where do you exactly mean on the Renaissance Resort Island in the middle? Can you point it out on the areal photo of AUA I posted above? I'm still not sure I understand that location correctly.

I know AUA has it's peak hours but on weekends (especially on Saturdays) the airport is quite bussy almost the entire afternoon (12:00PM to 07:00PM). Unfortunately KL doesn't arrive during the day in AUA on weekends (if they do fly to AUA on weekends afterall). But Air Pullmantur has a charterflight every Saturday now, so at least I get a chance of photographing another 747 while I'm there (provided Air Pullmantur still flies the charters to AUA around that time).

Do you have any other tips? Thanks  Smile

A388


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11272 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 4886 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 2):
Which photos did you take at AUA?

I took the American A300 from Renaissance Island. I stayed there when I visited Aruba. I wish I could tell you for sure, but I thought you had to be staying at the resort (Or any of the other Renaissance or Marriott properties) to get to the island. Make sure to check.

The spot on the island where I took that shot doesn't really appear on that photo. I know that the island is man-made, and so I may have been on a part that wasn't made yet in that photo. But, you can't really miss if if you're looking for it. Get off the boat, and follow the northern coast line (it's not really a beach) until you see the hammocks. Then lie on a hammock and start shooting!



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4873 times:

Thanks for the tip D L X. I will ask my friend who lives there where I have to go or how to get there. I'm just trying to visualise the entire surrounding area at the airport as two days of aircraft photography really isn't much unfortunately. I checked your photos at airliners.net, did you take only two photos when you were there (the AA A300 photo and LAS 727F) or do you have more photos taken at AUA on another (personal) website? I'm really looking for more aircraft photos at AUA so I can determine how everything is there in advance, airport wise speaking of course. Life in AUA probably is very similar to here in CUR, the easy going life haha Big grin Check out my photos in below link:

http://www1.airliners.net/search/pho...%20Cannegieter&distinct_entry=true

If anyone else has tips, please let me know.

Regards,

A388  Smile


User currently offlineEdoca From Belgium, joined Mar 2005, 688 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4844 times:

Hey Roger!

I can't believe you finally got the opportunity to get to AUA, that must have been on your wish list for a few years now...

Thanks for plugging my pics again... Rather than rewriting and answering for every one of them (I think I know most of the locations of the pics by the other photogs), I'm going to refer you to what I wrote up some time ago:

http://www.spotterswiki.com/index.ph...ternational_Airport_%28AUA/TNCA%29

Just one point, the safety of the south-east side is not really an issue at all, been there many times, but I do know that it is constantly evolving, they were working on the General Aviation terminal there for quite a while so I think many of the spotting opportunities may have gone by now. The main disadvantage is that it faces the west, so very bad for lighting throughout the afternoon, all you can do is photograph taxiing aircraft really. The beach side is much better for landings, as you will be facing east-southeast with the sun high up in the west-southwest in the afternoons.

But when you're lucky you can get shots like this at that south side...:

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Let me know if you have further questions!

[Edited 2006-11-26 11:17:49]

User currently offlineEdoca From Belgium, joined Mar 2005, 688 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4842 times:

I've also taken the liberty of using Alex McMahon's fantastic image to show in more detail where you can go. The red dots are possible locations, and as you can see there are quite a few on the top right corner, it's not all in one location there.

I've also marked the road you have to take, in yellow, to get to the general aviation terminal on the south side. Hope this helps!

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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 4836 times:

Hey Edoca,

How are you doing? Many thanks for your detailed explanation. I was thinking, the best location would be on the beach (top right of the areal photo), am I correct? The reason why I ask is because I was told that you are facing the sun at this area but after looking at all the AUA photos I don't see any sun issues from this area, correct?

Once again, thank you for your tips of course Big grin I will try to get my ticket today. I only booked the ticket yesterday so I need to pay it at the airport. Fuel surcharges and airport taxes in total is about 50 U.S. Dollars (unbelievable)!

Regards,

A388


User currently offlineEdoca From Belgium, joined Mar 2005, 688 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4804 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 7):
the best location would be on the beach (top right of the areal photo), am I correct? The reason why I ask is because I was told that you are facing the sun at this area but after looking at all the AUA photos I don't see any sun issues from this area, correct?

Correct, only time it's not good there is early in the morning but it's very quiet then anyway. I wouldn't say there are no sun issues at all at other times, because the light in these parts can be very bright and harsh, just like in Curaçao of course.


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4790 times:

Quoting Edoca (Reply 8):
Correct, only time it's not good there is early in the morning but it's very quiet then anyway. I wouldn't say there are no sun issues at all at other times, because the light in these parts can be very bright and harsh, just like in Curaçao of course.

Thanks for the information and tips Edoca. I will let know when the photos are on internet!!! I think I have your personal email somewhere but I'm not sure. If you want me to include you in my aircraft photo email list, I will more than gladly add you to the list. Every time when I have new aircraft photos on internet I send an email to my friends who are interested in the aviation as well. Just let me know.

Groeten (=regards),

A388 Big grin


User currently offlineAAGOLD From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 546 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4759 times:
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Here's my two cents on shooting in Aruaba ...


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The KL and AA taxi shots were taken from the spot marked Boulevard on the map. The fence is pretty high along this area. There are a couple of places you might find where it's been stretched or a link broken, and it's possible (depending on the size of the lens) to put the lense through the chain links.


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The KL and Arkefly were taken from the spot marked Roundabout. There is a gate where it's possible to squeeze a lens through the fence. You can get some backyard touchdown shots and taxi shots where they have turned and the Sun is hitting them broadside. Last June though a couple of the bushes were growing up pretty fast and they can get in the way.

I should add, from both of the spots above, I back the car right up to the fence and stand on the trunk to shoot over the fence. You'll need a stick to separate the barbed-wire strands so they don't hit the camera. There are three strands of barbed-wire, sandwich a stick between two of the strands and you can stick the lens through easily.


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These two shots were taken from the area between what is labeled Roundabout and the red dot further down by the water nearest the end of the runway. Good side-on shots but nothing that screams Aruba about them.


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The sunset shot was taken from the area marked General Aviation. The fence is high and shooting through it and getting a good angle wasn't that easy. Besides the action is pretty far from you at this point. But, if the sunset is nice and there is a plane landing you can get a nice shot.

Enjoy your trip. We have a timeshare there and have gone almost every year for the past 20 years.

Art


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4754 times:

Hi Art,

Nice hearing from you. I send you two emails about photography in AUA. Your photos are great I must say, just as Ward Callens photos. I was thinking of positioning between the red dot further down the water/beach and the roundabout. This location looks very nice and pretty much the best location when it comes down to the least obstacles for aircraft photography. I have a 300mm lens so I think the lense won't fit in the fence wholes unless the fence is broken up or something similar.

Any more tips about AUA photography?

Regards,

A388 Big grin


User currently offlineEdoca From Belgium, joined Mar 2005, 688 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4751 times:

Quoting AAGOLD (Reply 10):
I back the car right up to the fence and stand on the trunk to shoot over the fence. You'll need a stick to separate the barbed-wire strands so they don't hit the camera. There are three strands of barbed-wire, sandwich a stick between two of the strands and you can stick the lens through easily.

Pretty enthousiastic, Art! Do you do that as well in the US? Anyway, I've never had to resort to such tactics but you should indeed not have any trouble doing that in Aruba...

Roger, when you are there you'll quickly see what spot is best suited - you can walk the beach/roundabout/boulevard section quite easily, following the perimeter fence, to find the optimum spot.

Good luck!
Ward


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4738 times:

Quoting Edoca (Reply 12):
Roger, when you are there you'll quickly see what spot is best suited - you can walk the beach/roundabout/boulevard section quite easily, following the perimeter fence, to find the optimum spot.

Good luck!
Ward

Hi Ward, I will most certainly walk around to find the optimum spot. I will be near the beach/roundabout most likely but who knows. Maybe I will see another better location somewhere else. Let me start by paying my ticket this week before I start asking more questions  


Regards,

A388 Big grin

[Edited 2006-11-29 05:22:34]

User currently offlineAAGOLD From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 546 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4730 times:
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A388

When you are positioned at the far end of the runway, between the red dot and the roundabout, you'll mostly get airborne shots and, unfortunately, they don't tell the story of where you are. When you are by the red dot you have no view of the runway at all. It's behind and above you. If you shoot directly from the roundabout, btw we call them traffic circles, it's not very scenic. Just sand and fence. At the edge of the fence by the roundabout you can shoot through the fence and get the planes over the numbers showing both the plane and the landscape (my preference). I usually sit in the car halfway between the roundabout and dot so I can see what's coming and quickly reposition myself if necessary. My 400mm definitely doesn't shoot through that fence so shooting through the barbed wire at the top is a must for me.

The only other thing I might add is that the lighting can be pretty harsh so be careful with your exposures.

Edoca,

Enthusiastic! Not really, I just want to get a good photo without the worries of obstacles like that fence. Aruba isn't a problem. The guard makes his rounds inside the fence, I wave to him and he waves back. In the US it's not possible. From what I have been told there is a rule requiring ladders and the such to be 10 foot back from the fence. I've never seen it written anywhere, but that's what I understand. So, no, I don't do that here.

Art


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4718 times:

Quoting AAGOLD (Reply 14):
The only other thing I might add is that the lighting can be pretty harsh so be careful with your exposures.

Hi Art, once again, thanks for the tips. Which settings did you use at AUA? I know about the sun being very harsh at times since I photograph in CUR but I don't know how the sun is positioned at AUA. In CUR the sun is behind you and not in front of you, making it easier to photograph the aircraft.

Regards,

A388


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4666 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 15):
Hi Art, once again, thanks for the tips. Which settings did you use at AUA? I know about the sun being very harsh at times since I photograph in CUR but I don't know how the sun is positioned at AUA. In CUR the sun is behind you and not in front of you, making it easier to photograph the aircraft.

Regards,

A388

Well the days are coming closer for me to go to AUA. Does anyone have tips on the preferred camera settings or more tips about aircraft photography there? I heard the location from the beach gives you the sun right in your face when aircraft arrive from the late morning to the afternoon. Is this really true or soo bad? As I won't have a car this might be the best location for me (unfortunately).....

A388


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11272 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4661 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 16):
preferred camera settings

f/8 and go, man!

If you get to the Renaissance Island, it will be great shooting after noon. My best shots were from there.

Don't forget to take a look at the schedules! You don't want to miss out on your favorites.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4659 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 17):
f/8 and go, man!

If you get to the Renaissance Island, it will be great shooting after noon. My best shots were from there.

Don't forget to take a look at the schedules! You don't want to miss out on your favorites.

Hey D L X, what's up! Thanks for the tips. I'm still thinking about whether I should stay at the beach/roundabout or go to the Renaissance Island Resort as I hate boat trips or sailing. Even so, eventually it all comes down to photography. How is the sun positioned when taking photos from the Renaissance Island Resort? Especially at peak hours, is it good for aircraft photography?

A388


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11272 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4654 times:

I think the lighting on the Renaissance Island is perfect in the afternoon for shooting. And it's not really much of a boat ride... 5 minutes in a speed boat. Just do it.  Smile


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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4630 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 19):
I think the lighting on the Renaissance Island is perfect in the afternoon for shooting. And it's not really much of a boat ride... 5 minutes in a speed boat. Just do it.

I just came across a few AUA photos taken from the Renaissance Island Resort but it appears you will have the airport fence in front of the aircraft when they taxi by for take off. See one photo link here:

http://www.myaviation.net/search/pho..._search.php?id=00851845&size=large

The photo looks pretty good when looking at the quality so my guess would be it was rejected for objects in the way, in this case the fence? Would this mean photo rejections here because of the fence being an "obstacle"? I sure hope not. It would be a shame if most of my photos taken from the Renaissance Island Resort would be rejected because of the fence....?

Also, is a 300mm lense sufficient for aircraft photography from the Renaissance Island Resort or do you need a 400mm lense to get nice shots? I have the Canon EF90-300mm USM lense....?

A388

[Edited 2006-12-15 03:57:30]

User currently offlineEdoca From Belgium, joined Mar 2005, 688 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4620 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 20):
The photo looks pretty good when looking at the quality so my guess would be it was rejected for objects in the way, in this case the fence? Would this mean photo rejections here because of the fence being an "obstacle"? I sure hope not. It would be a shame if most of my photos taken from the Renaissance Island Resort would be rejected because of the fence....?

Also, is a 300mm lense sufficient for aircraft photography from the Renaissance Island Resort or do you need a 400mm lense to get nice shots? I have the Canon EF90-300mm USM lense....?

Hi Roger. The main attraction at Renaissance is the landing aircraft. You will indeed be plagued by the fence for most taxiing and departing traffic (see the shots you posted yourself from myself and D L X in the original post). And I know there were plans to upgrade the fencing, so I don't know if it's become worse since I last was there (in April).

300mm will be fine though, I've shot with a maximum of 200mm there (crop factor 1.5 but that doesn't really count).

Looking forward to seeing your pics. With a thread like this I imagine you already know the place inside out before having physically been there  Wink


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4612 times:

Quoting Edoca (Reply 21):
Looking forward to seeing your pics. With a thread like this I imagine you already know the place inside out before having physically been there

Haha, hey Edoca, how's life on the other side of the planet. You are absolutely right in that I already know a lot about the airport area of AUA before even having been there yet and I'm very excited of course. It is now 05:40 in the morning and I haven't slept since an hour ago so you can imagine  Smile I will post my photos once added to the database of course.

A388 Big grin


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4537 times:

Well,

As you know, I went to AUA and I can only tell you one thing: AUA is great!!! I got a tour on airside and took very nice aircraft photos from a variety of destinations. I later went to the beach near the runway but this location is aweful in the afternoon as the sun is in your face. I didn't manage to go to the Renaissance Resort Island because of too much sun I had on Saturday. I didn't want to cause a sun burn or anything like that. So the Renaissance Resort Island will have to wait for a while unfortunately. When looking at the sun in the afternoon the Renaissance Resort Island indeed probably give you the best results as the sun hits the aircraft very nicely not in the back of the aircraft as when you photograph from the beach. Also there were no broken links in the fences I could see as the entire fence has been repaired and/or replaced with a new fence about two months ago what a friend of mine told me who lives there.

I have my photos in the screening qeue for almost a week now so I'm desperately hoping they will all be accepted because the photos I took are truly amazing and in some cases first angles for AUA Big grin

I will post my photos here when added to the database.

A388 Big grin


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