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Dejected!Screener Help Please  
User currently offlineRanger703 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 157 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4619 times:

Hi there,

Having recently had some success in uploading and got my ratio above 50% I thought I had got my editing skills sorted,especially with regard to size,centre,level,colour etc.Just had the following 3 pics rejected,2 others I submitted at the same time were accepted,editing process was the same for all.Could I please have some advice on how to correct them because I'm a bit gutted at the moment,thought they were all good un's.

Pic 1 was rejected for centre

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Thought it was pretty central myself considering the motive I was after,ie all aircraft in the shot.I have tried raising the main aircraft slightly but the tower in the background then loses part of its roof.Any tips?

Pic 2 was rejected for grainy and oversharpened

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 780 File size: 344kb


I honestly can't see the grain or jaggies

Pic 3 was rejected for quality and soft

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 780 File size: 304kb


Sharpened the same as the other pics and taken with the same camera and lens,where is the quality issue?

Any help including offers to edit will be received gratefully.

Andy

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User currently offlineFly747 From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1497 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4566 times:

Hi Andy,

I'm not sure how to center the first picture. Was this the only reason for rejection?
Second image has jaggies all around the airplane and on the engine as well. I see grain in the sky, don't sharpen the sky.
Third image is out of focus and overall quality is just not there. Plus it seems unlevel.

Ivan



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User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4531 times:

My thoughts (not to be taken too seriously as I'm a "screener-in-training"  Smile)

First image:

Is that the full crop of the original photo? If so, not sure there is much you can do (IMO). Personally, I would like to see the main aircraft a bit higher in the frame to allow for the guy on the right to not have the bottom of his feet cutoff. If you could somehow do that while keeping the tower in the image that would be ideal.

Second image:
http://www1.airliners.net/uf/536894683/1164805520Y0GGEQ.jpg
There are parts that are oversharpened (jaggies) while others are soft (nose and ramp area under tail). For a ramp shot similar to this the enter image should be sharp (but not OS). Masking the sky (or whatever technique you use) to avoid applying sharpening to that area should help with the touch of grain.

Third image:

As mentioned by Ivan, this image is slightly out-of-focus and suffers a bit of a leveling issue. Were these taken from a moving vehicle? Try holding the camera steady or be sure you're using a smaller aperture (larger number) for proper depth-of-field. You should be able to get foreground, main subject and background sharp (in focus) with shots like this. Do you recall what aperture was used on this image?

Mike


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4522 times:

Quoting Mikephotos (Reply 2):
My thoughts (not to be taken too seriously as I'm a "screener-in-training"

I laughed my ass off when I read this Mike.

Wouldn't the first one get badpeople as well? Second has major jaggies on the tail.


User currently offlineFly747 From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1497 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4507 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 3):
Wouldn't the first one get badpeople as well?

Can you recognize any faces??

Ivan



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

Quoting Fly747 (Reply 4):
Can you recognize any faces??

My bad.

They don't count towards motiv if they are blocking anything?


User currently offlineRanger703 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4488 times:

Thanks for the advice,especially Mikephotos,much appreciated.

Pic 1:I see the reason for centre now,it would look better if the guy in the bottom right didn't have his feet slightly cut off.The people in the pic are part of the motiv,ie each one is carrying out a different pre-flight check.

Pic 2.I can see the softness at both ends and the grain in the sky,still having some problems seeing the jaggies on my screen at full size.

Pic 3:I levelled this off the hangars in the background and the spine of the aircraft,this wasn't a rejection reason.Can't explain the out-of-focus comments,will have to bin this one.

Thanks again.

Andy


User currently offlineFly747 From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1497 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4470 times:

Quoting Ranger703 (Reply 6):
Pic 3:I levelled this off the hangars in the background and the spine of the aircraft

I think the horizont would work the best in this case.

Ivan



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