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Newbie Advice - Worth Working On?  
User currently offlineHoll3411 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 18 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3036 times:

Evening everyone,
I've been up to MAN today with the intention of making the most of the afternoon sunshine, with traffic and the long and muddy trek to a decent spot on 24L, I ended up only managing a few minutes before dusk!

I managed a few shots as it was v. quiet, the best of a bad bunch being this one...

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 566kb


I kind of like the lighting in this, but it seems too grainy and soft. (I've not workflowed it yet, as it seems like too much of a stretch)

Is it worth spending the time working on this one or should I consign it to the personal "near miss" collection?

Any advice or feedback would be apreciated.

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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2069 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3029 times:
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Here's what I came up with based on your attached photo:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/11650787715jQGrVedit.jpg
(added some light, saturation and sharpness)

Depending on the original I'd say it could have a fair chance as it's a nice motive and great light and background.

Thierry



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User currently offlineScottieprecord From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1363 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3025 times:

It's awfully soft, and the lighting is too head-on as the back of the aircraft isn't lit. However, I'm not seeing too much of a grain problem on my monitor. I highly doubt this one can be fixed... but I've thought that before, and someone on here manages to work up a miracle on photoshop and get it in.

-Mike


User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3048 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3001 times:
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Hello Holl.

I don't live far away, and I had hopes for being able to get the camera out today too. But family matters prevented it, and I thought the weather would deteriorate faster than it in fact did.

I like the lighting here too and have just had a quick play with the shot you posted. I would need to look at the original, but I think there may be hope, as the atmosphere in the shot is very nice and - for me - makes up for the rear of the aircraft not being directly lit.

Certainly do feel free to get in touch via the profile if you would like any help with the edit.

I see there are already 141 shots of this aircraft on the database, so that may be an issue here. But nothing ventured, nothing gained  wink .

All the best.

Paul


User currently offlineHoll3411 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2947 times:

Thanks for the comments and efforts Thierry/Mike/Paul.

I've decided to try and persevere with this one, if nothing else but to make up for being up to my knees in mud to get this!

As Paul pointed out, lots in the DB for this one, but not so many with this light so seems worth a stab. So here's a first pass of the worked shot, not sure if it is up to the grade?

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 588kb


Thanks

Steve


User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3048 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2936 times:
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Hello again Steve.

Thanks for the email - I have been back in touch.

As things stand this edit has left the aircraft looking too dark overall, and the sharpening doesn't look enough to give it a good chance. I am confident that it can look better than that with some more work. Another small, but significant issue, is that the crop has left a little too much space to the left - you need to crop that slightly closer to the nose, to balance the crop to the right (which looks just about right).

As I mentioned, if you wish, send along the original file and I will do an edit for you to compare with this one here.

Take care.

Paul


User currently offlineNorfolkjohn From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 251 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2936 times:

Steve,

I like this shot but your edit is way too soft. I would recommend you take up the offer from Paul to have him try an edit on your original. If Paul can't get the shot up to standard I doubt anyone can. Conversely if he can sort it out I know, from personal experience, that he can explain to you exactly what he has done. I have learned a huge amount from him over the last eighteen months and I'm certain he can be a big help to you as well.

Good luck

John

P.S. Paul - try not to cringe too much when you read the above !



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User currently offlineHoll3411 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2898 times:

Thanks to the efforts of Paul, here is a far, far better worked version...

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 615kb


On a more general point, is the lighting going to help or hinder with this shot? It certainly makes it different to the 100+ existing shots, but it isn't a clean full lit image either.

Comments apprecaited...

Steve


User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2069 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2894 times:
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Give it a try!
The quality ain't superb but the lighting is and the picture looks quite nice overall.

Good luck!

Thierry



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User currently offlineWalter2222 From Belgium, joined Sep 2005, 1293 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2883 times:

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 8):
Give it a try!
The quality ain't superb but the lighting is and the picture looks quite nice overall.

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You have my vote as well! Please upload, you have nothing to lose!

Good luck!

Walter



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User currently offlineSpencer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1635 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2873 times:

Steve, it's a nice enough shot mate, give it a bash. They (the screeners) can only reject it......
Spencer.



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User currently offlineHoll3411 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2807 times:

Quick update: To answer my original post, was this worth working on? Yes - it's now my first acceptance!  Big grin

Huge thanks to Paul and everyone else that has helped/commented on this and other threads of mine seeking advice over the months!! I don't want this to sound like an OTT oscars acceptance speech, but without the advice and encouragement I've received here on A-net I don't think I would have made the progress that I have.

Thanks again, from a very happy Steve!  veryhappy 


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