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Eurotrip (FRA, INN, MIL, MXP, TLS, AMS, Etc)  
User currently offlineMatheus From Brazil, joined Nov 2003, 135 posts, RR: 7
Posted (7 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 4416 times:

Hello all!

I just bought my tickets to FRA. Going on 29 december and returning to Brazil on 7 feb (before carnival, of course ).
The main reason for my trip is turism, but for sure I'll spend few days spotting in some places such ZHR, INN (early jan), MXP, FCO, TLS, CDG, AMS and in the end of all FRA. I may make few detours, like go to LHR or ATH, depends how the trip goes (time and $$$).

I know that the weather will not help really much, but how is the spotting on those places? Any security issue? Are the spotting places easy to reach by bus, walking or any other way? I need few contacts if possible as well.

Any suggestions where can I go to the new year? Where is the best place in Germany (more beer, less $$$)?

Some of my photos:
http://www1.airliners.net/search/pho...h=Matheus%20M.%20de%20F.%20Barbosa

Thanks!

Matt

[Edited 2006-12-06 00:20:47]

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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 17 hours ago) and read 4400 times:

I plan to be at FRA on January 6th, does this help?

Visit Dresden, nice city for tourism. Mail me if you have further questions.

Georg


User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 16 hours ago) and read 4391 times:

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 1):
Visit Dresden, nice city for tourism. Mail me if you have further questions.

 Confused  Confused  Confused

This guy is coming from South America to Europe and you offer him Dresden ?

Robin



ABC
User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 16 hours ago) and read 4383 times:

Quoting Rotate (Reply 2):
This guy is coming from South America to Europe and you offer him Dresden ?

YES! You seem to have never been here. We have many tourists even from South America. What speaks against "Elbflorenz" if you don't come for spotting only?

Georg


User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 15 hours ago) and read 4377 times:

Hi Matt,

Make the trip over to MAN, it's probably Europe's most photographer-friendly airport along with AMS. Trouble is, there's not much touristy stuff to do but the return flight from Germany would be cheap.

I'm on hand 24/7 (well, not literally, but I only work three nights a week) to guide people around the airport.

Karl


User currently offlineMatheus From Brazil, joined Nov 2003, 135 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 15 hours ago) and read 4373 times:

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 4):
Make the trip over to MAN, it's probably Europe's most photographer-friendly airport along with AMS. Trouble is, there's not much touristy stuff to do but the return flight from Germany would be cheap.

Hi Karl,

I think UK will be a problem to me, as I'll not have much room on my backpack and I'll have lot of things to carry on, specially my camera. Still has that boring restrictions, 5 objects on a plastic bag?
How long is by train or "something-as-fast-as" to Manchester from Paris?
I have just one plan on my trip, is reach FRA on 7th feb Big grin

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 1):
Mail me if you have further questions.

Just did it  Wink

Thanks!

Matt


User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4670 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 4356 times:

for INN, There is an invasion of russians on the 1st and 2nd of January I believe with some a.netters there. AirKas1 and myself will be in town 5th-8th.

I had some great advise in this thread:

http://www1.airliners.net/discussion...ation_photography/read.main/252775



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User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 8 hours ago) and read 4350 times:

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 3):
YES! You seem to have never been here. We have many tourists even from South America. What speaks against "Elbflorenz" if you don't come for spotting only?

I have been 3times allready at Dresden the recent years (Cart and DTM races at the Lausitzring), nice City - no question. But I think for instance AMS hat to offer a lot more .... , not to mention the best Airport in my opinion in terms of Spotting facilities and Traffic.

Robin



ABC
User currently offlineErwin972 From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 500 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 8 hours ago) and read 4341 times:

Advertising AMS isn't necessary any more. Just go there: large visitors deck, kaagbaan 06/24 (will be closed off next year for visitors) and polderbaan 18R/36L are the best places to take photo's. Traffic all day, cargo, heavies, props, very photographer friendly. Just look at the AMS pictures.

And you can do a side trip downtown.

Kind regards,
Erwin



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User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 2 hours ago) and read 4304 times:

Quoting Erwin972 (Reply 8):
Advertising AMS isn't necessary any more. Just go there

What about spotter friendly airports ? Is a decision taken by the airport staff or just a case ?

Regards



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User currently offlineEMA747 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 1171 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 2 hours ago) and read 4299 times:

Quoting Erwin972 (Reply 8):
And you can do a side trip downtown.

and you could go to Aviodrome in Lelystad which I think you can get to by train from AMS. They have a preserved 747-200, which is the reason I would like to visit in the future.

Erwin, can you get to Kaagbaan and Polderbaan by public transport? I will hopefully visit AMS in the new year when I can get a cheap flight on BMI Baby from EMA. It might not be when you'r there Matt but if it is it would be cool to meet up.

Andy S



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User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3971 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 4288 times:

Quoting LIPH (Reply 9):
What about spotter friendly airports ? Is a decision taken by the airport staff or just a case ?

AFAIK AMS is spotter friendly.. What do you mean?

Quoting EMA747 (Reply 10):
can you get to Kaagbaan and Polderbaan by public transport?

Kaagbaan yes (although you'll need to walk a bit. But its doable. Just keep in mind that the spotterplace there will close)
Polderbaan, no

-K


User currently offlineEMA747 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 1171 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 4276 times:

Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 11):
Just keep in mind that the spotterplace there will close)

When will it close? Is it worth making the trip before it closes if I can?



Failing doesn’t make you a failure. Giving up and refusing to try again does!
User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 4276 times:

Quoting Rotate (Reply 7):
nice City - no question

Good to read that.

Quoting Rotate (Reply 7):
But I think for instance AMS hat to offer a lot more .... , not to mention the best Airport in my opinion in terms of Spotting facilities and Traffic.

For sure the red-light district and the drugs  Wink but I think that Dresden has to offer more culture (airport is no big thing...AMS is ways better) which was also his question.

Georg


User currently offlineErwin972 From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 500 posts, RR: 44
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 4274 times:

Quoting EMA747 (Reply 12):
When will it close? Is it worth making the trip before it closes if I can?

It is rumoured after May 2007.

Kind regards,
Erwin



My gear: Nikon, Sony, Red, Sachtler etc.
User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3353 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months ago) and read 4266 times:

Quoting EMA747 (Reply 12):
When will it close? Is it worth making the trip before it closes if I can?

May 2007 it will close, and it is definately worthwhile to go there before it closes then. Go around april to get the best weather.


EDIT: check this thread for the next a.net spotters meet sometime april. The exact date to be decided upon.
http://www1.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/1451487/

[Edited 2006-12-06 18:14:02]


Attamottamotta!
User currently offlineMatheus From Brazil, joined Nov 2003, 135 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4243 times:

Ok, I threw Italy off my trip plans. I think Italy needs more than 15 days to know it well.
Now, for sure I'll go to MAN. I'll get an airplane from Paris (which airline is the cheapest? Easyjet?), will spot there for a couple days and after go down to Liverpool and London by train, bus, horse, swimming, whatever. I'll spend about 5 days up to 1 week in AMS (heard good things about there  goodvibes  praise  ) and it will be there between 25 jan and 02 feb.
Does anyone has contacts for me in AMS???
Thanks for all for the help!

Matt


User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3353 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4238 times:

Quoting Matheus (Reply 16):
Does anyone has contacts for me in AMS???

Am not from Amsterdam myself, but during the weekend it should be possible for me to drive you around the airport. Don't know the city of Amsterdam too well, so if you are after a city guide you really should get someone more local then me.



Attamottamotta!
User currently offlineDC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1406 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4234 times:

Matt,

MAN is definitely worth a visit. You can fly either Easyjet to CDG-LPL or alternatively CDG-MAN with Jet2.

Don't bother with the train, Eurostar through the tunnel is quite expensive and then you'd have to change onto the Underground across London from Waterloo to Euston station and then another 2 hours up to Manchester. Will be quicker and cheaper by air.

Regards,

Tim.



Obviously missing something....
User currently offlineMatheus From Brazil, joined Nov 2003, 135 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4185 times:

Hi again,

So, I did my schedule:

30/12 - 02/01 : Munich
02/01 - 05/01 : Innsbruck
05/01 - 08/01 : Zurich
08/01 - 13/01 : Paris
13/01 - 18/01 : London
18/01 - 22/01 : Manchester/Liverpool
22/01 - 29/01 : Amsterdan  goodvibes 
29/01 - 01/02 : Copenhagen
01/02 - 04/02 : Berlin
04/02 - 07/02 : Somewhere in Germany, maybe Dresden
07/02 - 09/02 : Frankfurt

In 2 days I'll start to buy my airplane tickets from a place to other, when it is possible.

Matt


User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3971 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4182 times:

Quoting Matheus (Reply 19):
02/01 - 05/01 : Innsbruck

Hey Matt!

Jurgen and myself will arrive in INN on the 5th. What time will you be departing? Maybe we'll see you there.

-Kas


User currently offlineMatheus From Brazil, joined Nov 2003, 135 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4179 times:

Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 20):
Jurgen and myself will arrive in INN on the 5th. What time will you be departing? Maybe we'll see you there.

Hi Kas!

Dont know yet. From INN to ZRH I'll go by train or bus, I may stay till 06th for a beer!

Matt


User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4670 posts, RR: 50
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4175 times:

Quoting Matheus (Reply 19):
02/01 - 05/01 : Innsbruck

Looks like you are there during the week. From what I gather, it's quite quiet. If I were you I would at least stay a saturday  Wink.



For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and ther
User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4171 times:

Quoting Matheus (Reply 19):
04/02 - 07/02 : Somewhere in Germany, maybe Dresden

Send a mail if you need a cheap stay at Dresden.

Georg


User currently offlineMatheus From Brazil, joined Nov 2003, 135 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4167 times:

Quoting JRadier (Reply 22):
Looks like you are there during the week. From what I gather, it's quite quiet. If I were you I would at least stay a saturday .

But, usually, the skiing is cheaper during week. Now, for sure, I gonna stay till saturday 6th jan  Smile.


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