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User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5579 posts, RR: 63
Posted (13 years 3 months 12 hours ago) and read 2677 times:
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Hi all

Some people might not be aware but if your software program, for example Corel Photo Paint, has a 'Load Grid' feature, this is good for ensuring that your shot is truly level.

Line it up with buildings, landmarks, antenna etc, if available and you will have no more rejects from Johan and us Screeners for 'Non Level' shots  Smile

Regards

Gary Watt
Aberdeen, Scotland

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User currently offlineDee-see-eit From Spain, joined Jan 2000, 435 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 months 10 hours ago) and read 2615 times:

Gary,

Don't give so many hints! Finally everybody will get his photos accepted...

DC8


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (13 years 3 months 10 hours ago) and read 2610 times:

nah, there is still "poor quality" which can cover anything from "I don't like that colour" to "there is a pixel too much space in front of the plane".


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User currently offlineAircanon From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 months 7 hours ago) and read 2584 times:

Now here is a photo of mine that got rejected today because the angle of the camera does not seem to be straight compared to the
horizon.


Now this confuses me!  Confused

If you take a close look then you can realize that the buildings in the background (under the right wing as seen from your view) are horizontal. The church tower (under the left wing as seen from your view) is vertical.





Could it be that the screener hit the wrong button by mistake or are my old poor eyes missing something?  Sad

Any comments very much appreciated.

Regards

Edwin


User currently offlineScreener2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 months 7 hours ago) and read 2571 times:

Sure enough, the horizon is level.

I expect it was a wrong button pushed. Unfortunately, I'm working on a laptop right now so I can't judge well the other aspects of the picture (on my screen the plane looks whited-out, but that may be this crappy screen)

S2

PS: No I do not screen photos when I'm using a laptop  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineAircanon From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 3 months 7 hours ago) and read 2569 times:

Thanks Screener2 for your reply and comment on that picture. I guess i should upload it once more and see what happens.

Regards

Edwin

PS: That plane was extremly white! Must have been previously washed with some kind of super detergent. Big grin


User currently offlineAndyEastMids From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (13 years 3 months 7 hours ago) and read 2564 times:

I find that the best way to sort things out is to have a few beers first... Then, pictures with sloping horizons look just as level as when I took them.  Big grin

Andy


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (13 years 3 months 4 hours ago) and read 2545 times:

I've also had shots rejected for "horizon not straight" when the verticals were vertical.
In some places the taxiways/runways are sloped (even at a pancake like AMS) which can lead to weirdlooking angles (aircraft running downhill when the lightpoles are vertical).



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User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11955 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (13 years 3 months 4 hours ago) and read 2542 times:

Level shot or not?


Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Vienne



BIG questionmark about this one  Smile

Thom@s



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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (13 years 3 months 4 hours ago) and read 2538 times:

That's the kind I mean, Thom@s, thanks.
The lightpoles in the background are vertical, the visible horizon is definitively not.



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User currently offlineFredrik Hjort From Sweden, joined Apr 2001, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 3 months 4 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

Yeah that's a hard question. Should the composition be horizontal if you have a visible horizon or should then the horizon be horizontal *phew*  Confused

Many airports have rwy and twy which aren't horizontal...

/Fredrik


User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (13 years 3 months 3 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

Jwenting:
Did you check the poles on the pic above????
They are definetely not vertical.
Peter



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User currently offlineFredrik Hjort From Sweden, joined Apr 2001, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 3 months 3 hours ago) and read 2525 times:

I agree - they aren't vertical - BUT I think if you level the poles vertical the horizon aren't going to be horizontal. Or did I see wrong?

/Fredrik


User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (13 years 3 months 3 hours ago) and read 2524 times:

IMHO the visible verticals (poles, buildings, ...) should be vertical no matter what the horizon or the runway looks like.
Peter



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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 14, posted (13 years 3 months 3 hours ago) and read 2519 times:

Yes!!! I have had a picture rejected because it was not level, but where the aircraft was it was going down a slope underneath the runway, so it looked like it was not level Big grin

And for people taking pictures of Commuter aircraft, they should always look nose down while in the air, and George Polfliet showed this in one of his pictures (in my photo gallery user profile Big grin)..

Regards

Dan


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (13 years 3 months 3 hours ago) and read 2516 times:

They are almost level. Making them level would not make the ground horizontal  Smile


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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (13 years 3 months 2 hours ago) and read 2515 times:

for example: http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=N234NW-20010923020.JPG
Put a ruler to the red/white building and you will see it is vertical. Same with the lightpoles.

If not, get a straight ruler...



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User currently offlineEDIpic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 3 months 2 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

Attn GIMP users.

If you want to check you horizons are absolutely level:

Right click on your image:
Tools >> Transform Tools >> Transform.
Rotate the image until it "looks" right.

then check by:

Tools >>Transform Tools >> Crop and Resize.
This will open the cropping tool on your picture.
Don't crop the picture, just use the lines created by the cropping tool as a horizontal reference. It is exact!
It's better than placing a rule against the screen.

Gerry/EDI



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