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Help With A Quality Rej  
User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2829 times:

I've been recently rej the following pic for quality :

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...777_che_si_allinea_a_malpensa2.jpg

I'd love to see if somoene can arrange a better post-prcessing than the one I took. So I can provide the original image file to the good soul who wants to give it a try. Thanks.

Regards


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User currently offlineEWS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2822 times:

Howdy,

Im on my crap monitor at the moment.. and it looks really soft.. there also seems to be a haze around it.

Lew


User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4007 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2821 times:

Some screeners might reject it for the cutting of the tailfin I think. There's no need for that in this case.

Peter Smile



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User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2814 times:

Peter,

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i..._id=1130459&next_id=1128825&size=L
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i..._id=1106686&next_id=1102204&size=L
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i..._id=1069073&next_id=1048383&size=L

...Just to make some examples....  Sad
What do you mean with "there's no need for that" ? Are you willing to give it a try if I provide the relative image file ?

Regards



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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4007 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2807 times:

I mean that there's a lot of empty space below the aircraft, so with the same zoom it would have been possible to show the whole tail, if the fuselage was low in the frame. I think that looks a lot better.
And I know at least one screener who agrees with me, although to correct myself I don't know if you can actually get a rejection over it. Perhaps not, or only when it's a T-tail.

Quoting LIPH (Reply 3):
Are you willing to give it a try if I provide the relative image file ?

I guess I would, but it's a strange thing to ask from somebody with a 36% acceptance ratio...



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User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2804 times:

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 4):
I guess I would, but it's a strange thing to ask from somebody with a 36% acceptance ratio...

Ok Peter, I'll send you the image. Let's give it a try...After all, it seems that the acceptance ratio it's just a matter of luck !!  Wink For sure you have much more experience than I have in post-processing...You can send me your e-mail address via my contact form on A.net. I'll send the pic to you at lunch time. Thanks in advance. Of course, full credit will be priovided if accepted...

Regards



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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4007 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2797 times:

Quoting LIPH (Reply 5):
After all, it seems that the acceptance ratio it's just a matter of luck !!

No, I don't think that is true.
But I'll PM you my e-mail adress and have a go at it, tonight or tomorrow.



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User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2776 times:

Quoting LIPH (Reply 5):
acceptance ratio it's just a matter of luck !!

Not in the long run.



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User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2769 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 7):
Not in the long run.

Sure. What I insist to say is that there is a need of a sort of training, a "school of post processing" which should teach how to post-process pics *at A.net standards*. All the stuff on the net (PS guides and so on) are not sufficient at all : A.net has its own standards. Both on the motive side and in the quality side. After all, all screeners are trained before beginning to screen right ? So there is no reason that who wants to upload on A.net should not be trained too. If a screeners spot a problem on a pic, there is no reason I should not see it first...All is about training...Rejections alone are not sufficient to help people to understand where the problem on that pic is....And motive rej are always changing, creating doubts about what is ok and what is not on A.net. It would be hard to think someone posting every pic on the av forum before putting it on the queue...
I'd suggest to create in this sense a sort of group of people (beside screeners, database editors, etc) dedicated to help in the art of post-processing *at A.net standards*. guides are useful, but every picture is a stand-alone affair, and a dedicated "training center" for uploaders (maybe with a cueue and a maximum number of user per time) would be of great help.
Just my  twocents .

Regards



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User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2239 posts, RR: 48
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2753 times:

Giovanni,

Have you seen/tried this? It basically covers the whole editing process quite extensively. It doesn't mean that you have to follow this bit by bit, but it sure helps you get started developing your own editing procedure. There are more similar documents around, so the info is readily available to everyone.

E


User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2746 times:

Eduard,
yes, I have already tried to follow those guidelines, but actually did not succeed in reaching A.net standards : basically it is a pretty raw guide, even if it is well made.
As I wrote every pic is a stand alone affair...When I receive a quality rej I do not know if it is because the pic was already not at A.net standards from the beginning (when I shoot it) or maybe it's something about my post processing skills...How do I know this ? In this sense I say that a "post-processing training area" would be useful...

Regards



Life sucks. Then you die. Live fast, die young.
User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2239 posts, RR: 48
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2734 times:

Quoting LIPH (Reply 10):
How do I know this ?

My answer would be: experience. If I see my raw photos from the camera after a trip to the airport, I can already tell which shots can be binned or which I won't bother editing. After shooting a lot of photos and comparing it to other peoples photos, you will soon get a feeling for this. I (or anyone else) will have a hard time teaching you this, it's something you have to find out for yourself. It might take some rejections, but you will figure it out in the end. And if you can't figure it out, you can ask for help here.

E


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