Ptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3779 posts, RR: 20 Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1754 times:
I mean that there's a lot of empty space below the aircraft, so with the same zoom it would have been possible to show the whole tail, if the fuselage was low in the frame. I think that looks a lot better.
And I know at least one screener who agrees with me, although to correct myself I don't know if you can actually get a rejection over it. Perhaps not, or only when it's a T-tail.
Quoting LIPH (Reply 3): Are you willing to give it a try if I provide the relative image file ?
I guess I would, but it's a strange thing to ask from somebody with a 36% acceptance ratio...
The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad (Salvador Dali)
LIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1751 times:
Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 4): I guess I would, but it's a strange thing to ask from somebody with a 36% acceptance ratio...
Ok Peter, I'll send you the image. Let's give it a try...After all, it seems that the acceptance ratio it's just a matter of luck !! For sure you have much more experience than I have in post-processing...You can send me your e-mail address via my contact form on A.net. I'll send the pic to you at lunch time. Thanks in advance. Of course, full credit will be priovided if accepted...
Sure. What I insist to say is that there is a need of a sort of training, a "school of post processing" which should teach how to post-process pics *at A.net standards*. All the stuff on the net (PS guides and so on) are not sufficient at all : A.net has its own standards. Both on the motive side and in the quality side. After all, all screeners are trained before beginning to screen right ? So there is no reason that who wants to upload on A.net should not be trained too. If a screeners spot a problem on a pic, there is no reason I should not see it first...All is about training...Rejections alone are not sufficient to help people to understand where the problem on that pic is....And motive rej are always changing, creating doubts about what is ok and what is not on A.net. It would be hard to think someone posting every pic on the av forum before putting it on the queue...
I'd suggest to create in this sense a sort of group of people (beside screeners, database editors, etc) dedicated to help in the art of post-processing *at A.net standards*. guides are useful, but every picture is a stand-alone affair, and a dedicated "training center" for uploaders (maybe with a cueue and a maximum number of user per time) would be of great help.
Just my .
IL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2235 posts, RR: 51 Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1700 times:
Have you seen/tried this? It basically covers the whole editing process quite extensively. It doesn't mean that you have to follow this bit by bit, but it sure helps you get started developing your own editing procedure. There are more similar documents around, so the info is readily available to everyone.
LIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1693 times:
yes, I have already tried to follow those guidelines, but actually did not succeed in reaching A.net standards : basically it is a pretty raw guide, even if it is well made.
As I wrote every pic is a stand alone affair...When I receive a quality rej I do not know if it is because the pic was already not at A.net standards from the beginning (when I shoot it) or maybe it's something about my post processing skills...How do I know this ? In this sense I say that a "post-processing training area" would be useful...
My answer would be: experience. If I see my raw photos from the camera after a trip to the airport, I can already tell which shots can be binned or which I won't bother editing. After shooting a lot of photos and comparing it to other peoples photos, you will soon get a feeling for this. I (or anyone else) will have a hard time teaching you this, it's something you have to find out for yourself. It might take some rejections, but you will figure it out in the end. And if you can't figure it out, you can ask for help here.