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User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

What is A.net acceptance policy of shots containing in the bleow part also a part of the fence surrounding airports ? Is it a 100% "no go" ? Thanks in advance.

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User currently offlineJajo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1216 times:

Should be OK as long as it is does not cover the airplane.

Example:


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/ jajo

[Edited 2007-01-08 10:49:51]

User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1209 times:

Jajo,
is it ok also with shots depicting just the plane in the blue sky and part of the fence is visible ?

Regards


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User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1904 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1208 times:

This one is unacceptable even though it's a very rare photo:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/vmitil/odlmbbey.jpg

But I've seen some photos with the fence without interfering the subject.

User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1204 times:

So, as far as I understand the important thing is that the fence does not interfere with the plane...Thought it was considered a "distracting" part of reality to have on a pic....

Regards


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User currently offlineJajo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1189 times:

Quoting LIPH (Reply 2):
is it ok also with shots depicting just the plane in the blue sky and part of the fence is visible ?

If the fence is not drawing too much attention from the main subject it is ok. Like on the example in my first reply where the fence is no more distracting than the grass on the ground.

/ jajo

User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3518 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1183 times:

Obviously the fence cannot block the aircraft.

It should not be too distracting also. A heavy duty iron fence is worse than a line of barbed wire for example, but this also depends on the background -does the fence stand out much? Each case is different - use your judgement.

Here's a heavy duty fence in the foreground that is apparently acceptable, I think because there's not much of it and the background is dark. The shot was rejected but not for motive.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...ections/big/20061207_G-OOBEptr.jpg

Peter Smile


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User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1172 times:

What you guys think about this shot ?

[img=http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2408/senzatitolotapvp7.th.jpg]

Is the fence too distracting ?
Regards


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User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1904 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1164 times:

The pop-up ads are more distracting than that fence  Big grin

Were you lying down on the ground when you made it?

Seriously though, you may want to give it a try, it's an unknown territory for me.

Best regards.

User currently offlineSpeedbirdEGJJ From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 429 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1163 times:

To be honest the fence is very distracting and i would almost certainly expect a motive rejection.

Also its not as if its a rare bird or anything, there will be plenty more chances to shoot a TAP 319 without the barb wire!

User currently offlineJajo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1150 times:

I agree with Speedbird, this is most likely a motive-rejection because the fence is distracting. Try shooting from a different spot! In Sweden photographers are allowed to use a ladder to get pictures without the fence. But I don't recommend it without first checking with local authorities if it is ok.

/ jajo

User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1131 times:

Quoting SpeedbirdEGJJ (Reply 9):
To be honest the fence is very distracting and i would almost certainly expect a motive rejection.



Quoting Jajo (Reply 10):
I agree with Speedbird, this is most likely a motive-rejection because the fence is distracting.

Sorry guys,
but that shot is already in the DB...I have a almost identical one waiting to be uploaded...and was just wondering about the NOA motive issue...

Regards


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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3139 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1130 times:

Had this one rejected for motiv. Only thing can be the fence but I don't think there is too much of it in the pic.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...061217_D-AVRJ_ARJ_LH_101206_14.jpg

Georg

User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1125 times:

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 12):
Only thing can be the fence but I don't think there is too much of it in the pic.

I agree George...
Who knows ?  Confused I'm messing up...

Regards


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User currently offlineSpeedbirdEGJJ From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 429 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1098 times:

Quoting LIPH (Reply 11):
Sorry guys,
but that shot is already in the DB...I have a almost identical one waiting to be uploaded...and was just wondering about the NOA motive issue...

In that case wouldn't it make more sense to show us your shot? - motive is very subjective and if i understand you correctly dont see the point of linking a shot already in the database??

User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1086 times:

Quoting SpeedbirdEGJJ (Reply 14):
motive is very subjective and if i understand you correctly dont see the point of linking a shot already in the database??

I took that shot as a reference. I feel a bit puzzled these days about the NOA motive...

Regards


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User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4121 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1069 times:

If you look in the database for photo's at MAD you'll find loads taken at a spot where the fence is (in my opinion) very distracting. In fact, not only is there a fence in much of the bottom of the frame but there are also lamp-posts, a road, road-side barriers and traffic signs. The problem isn't so bad with smaller craft but with heavies it just looks terrible in my eyes (no offence meant to the guys who take such pics at MAD - I realise it's the only place to get ground shots from the perimeter and there's not a lot that can be done about it).

Karl

User currently offlineBmiBaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1546 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1054 times:

Fences are fine aslong as they do not 'ruin' the shot, either by distraction or covering aircraft parts.


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User currently offlineBmiBaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1546 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1051 times:

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 12):
Had this one rejected for motiv. Only thing can be the fence but I don't think there is too much of it in the pic.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...061217_D-AVRJ_ARJ_LH_101206_14.jpg

Georg

That rejection would be because of the crop, too close to the aircraft, and because of the very large and near fence post to the right, too distracting.

User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3139 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1030 times:

Quoting BmiBaby737 (Reply 18):

That rejection would be because of the crop, too close to the aircraft

Never knew it's possible to crop too close to the plane.

Georg

User currently offlineBmiBaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1546 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1008 times:

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 19):
Never knew it's possible to crop too close to the plane.

Yeh, I believe there was a recent thread with a reply from some screeners, however most will say "crop" in a personal message to you if you get a Motiv for that reason.

User currently offlineJoge From Finland, joined Feb 2000, 1440 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 995 times:

Funny enough, I was just thinking about this myself few hours ago after seeing this shot:


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The fence is just clearly visible in the picture, not anywhere around the aircraft but just over it running across the rear part of the fuselage in the same direction with the tail! Slip or not? It seems quite obvious for me at least...

-Joge


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