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User currently offlineLOCsta From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 306 posts, RR: 8
Posted (7 years 3 months 8 hours ago) and read 1835 times:
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Hi All,
I had this shot rejected for Quality and Soft.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...231_ScandinavianAirlinesOY-KBD.jpg
What do you think about this new edit.


Thanks for your time and comments!

Kevin


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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 1810 times:

I think it's nice.. then again, I'm an FNG. Big grin

User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 5 hours ago) and read 1802 times:

Quoting LOCsta (Thread starter):
What do you think about this new edit.

I think it's destined for the same rejections. You can tell it's been cropped heavily.


User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2061 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 3 hours ago) and read 1790 times:
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Sharpness is ok now on the new edit; I'd have a play still with the levels to make it come out a little brighter. After that it should stand a good chance as it's a very nice motive shot in nice lighting conditions.

Good luck!

Thierry



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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4939 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 3 hours ago) and read 1786 times:

I'm still not sure if the quality is there, I've had similar shots rejected on similar grounds... I'd keep it for the personal collection...


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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4737 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 1 hour ago) and read 1778 times:
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I see a lot of grain in the shadowed areas.


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User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months ago) and read 1768 times:

Wow,
a realy lovely shot.
I personally see there a dark issue to be solved (probably given by the high contrast) and a general blurry aspect of the pic. But nonetheless it remains a great shot...

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User currently offlineAcontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1417 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1752 times:
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Hi Kevin,

If this was already rejected because of quality issues (I include dark), then why trying again at 1200 pixels? Sizing down to 1024 will help you with the grain (less visible). Also watch out the contrast, in my eyes your edit has too much of it, which also adds a feeling of slightly oversharpened to it.
I think the pic has the potential to make it, I would just start again at smaller size, a little less contrast, play just a little with curves to increase slightly brightness and very carefully sharpen.



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User currently offlineLOCsta From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 306 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1740 times:
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thanks alot for the comments guys!
I try and edit my pics to the final size of 1200px, but I usually resize to 1024 for uploading. I began to wonder if I was losing quality in the final resize of a finished jpeg from 1200>1024, but I have not been able to tell for certain. Can anyone confirm that they also do this or am I losing a noticable amount of quality with this resize?
So it sounds like the consensus is that the shot is dark, but it was taken with the sun 1/2 behind the horizon. Is it not normal to have some areas that are very dark in this situation? Or do you mean the entire pic is dark?

Thanks again!

Kevin



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User currently offlineAcontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1417 posts, RR: 31
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1730 times:
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Quoting LOCsta (Reply 8):
Or do you mean the entire pic is dark?

 checkmark  I also shoot a lot during sunset, and this one is too dark (as presented), which does not mean it cannot be improved...



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2061 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1730 times:
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Quoting LOCsta (Reply 8):
began to wonder if I was losing quality in the final resize of a finished jpeg from 1200>1024

Not if you have a good and up-to-date post-processing software!

Quoting LOCsta (Reply 8):
So it sounds like the consensus is that the shot is dark, but it was taken with the sun 1/2 behind the horizon. Is it not normal to have some areas that are very dark in this situation? Or do you mean the entire pic is dark?

Of course with such environment lighting the picture will be darker then in bright daylight but take a look here:
http://planecatcher.com/picture_libr...ry/airbusa340313xscandinav2cb2.jpg
what you may still get out of the picture.
Note that mine was just a quick re-lighting edit and no care was taken to improve anything else (like grain).
Hope you'll stick with it and give it a try as I'm sure it deserves a place in A.net's db.

My edit: shadow/highlight adjustment, contrast/lighting improvement and a slight curve correction.

Thierry

[Edited 2007-01-22 21:23:44]


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User currently offlineLOCsta From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 306 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1722 times:
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Quoting ThierryD (Reply 10):
no care was taken to improve anything else (like grain)

I had it lighter before, but thought the grain was more a problem than the darkness.
How would you handle the grain to make it acceptable?

Cheers,

Kevin



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2061 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1709 times:
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Quoting LOCsta (Reply 11):
How would you handle the grain to make it acceptable?

For that I'd have to take a look at the original to see what my options would be; if you want send me the original file and I'll have a go at it.

Thierry



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User currently offlineWalter2222 From Belgium, joined Sep 2005, 1292 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1695 times:

Quoting LOCsta (Reply 8):
I try and edit my pics to the final size of 1200px, but I usually resize to 1024 for uploading

Hi Kevin, as Thierry already stated:

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 10):
Quoting LOCsta (Reply 8):
began to wonder if I was losing quality in the final resize of a finished jpeg from 1200>1024

Not if you have a good and up-to-date post-processing software!

The resizing itself will not degrade, but I assume - since you are talking about final size 1200px - that you save this as JPEG, then resize and save again as JPEG for uploading. If this is your process, then I can definitively say that you are losing quality (i.e. each time you save as JPEG, you loose a bit of quality).


I hope this helps!

Best regards,

Walter



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User currently offlineLOCsta From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 306 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1689 times:
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Quoting Walter2222 (Reply 13):
that you save this as JPEG, then resize and save again as JPEG for uploading. If this is your process, then I can definitively say that you are losing quality (i.e. each time you save as JPEG, you loose a bit of quality).

Thanks for the reply Walter, This was what I was wondering about!



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