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Should I Appeal This One?/How To Improve It?  
User currently offlineA380CGN From Germany, joined May 2006, 21 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4236 times:

Hi everyone,
I need your help with this picture which I got rejected for "quality", "not centered" and "soft appearance", but I absolutely do not agree with the screeners decision and the rejection-reasons  worried . I have not tried to upload so many pictures to a.net so far because I know about the very high standards and with my previous camera I was not able to produce such very good pictures, but I recently bought a Canon EOS 30D and the quality of my shots has increased a lot so for a start I was trying to upload this picture of which I thought and still think that it is very good in quality. I think that the aircraft is centered in that shot and furthermore I don't see any soft appearance in that picture. So maybe you guys can help me. Do you agree with the screeners? Maybe you can tell me how I could improve this picture or if I should appeal it.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help  Smile

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User currently offlineBubbles From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1196 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4225 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

Hi Oliver

Quoting A380CGN (Thread starter):
Do you agree with the screeners?

Nice shot! But, I agree with the screeners, especially for the rejection reasons of 'quality' and 'soft'. I do feel if you resized this image down to 1024, you would be easy to deal with sharpening to this image.

If you like, you could send me over the original shot and I'd like to try to edit it.

_Hongyin_


User currently offlineInterpaul From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 409 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4222 times:

Yes, I agree here. You're pretty close though. First question: Why do you upload at 1600 pixels wide?

Jan

edit: too slow  Wink

[Edited 2007-01-23 22:22:07]

User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2078 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4218 times:
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HEAD SUPPORT

I'm a little surprised by this picky rejection for an aircraft which is new to the database but try the following and it should be ok:
- resizing to 1200x... will get rid of the quality as at 1600x... small flaws just show too much
- centered: proabably the crop was meant by this rejection reason; crop a little tighter on the tail and nose and maybe all so slightly higer in the frame
- a little more USM (UnSharpMask) should do the trick

A note to the screeners (at the very bottom of the 2nd upload page) telling them that this aircraft (reg/aircraft combination) is new to the database could have helped to apply less stringent acceptance criteria.

Also, Oliver, I think the following guide could be useful to you:
http://planecatcher.com/IGRR.htm

Cheers,

Thierry



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User currently offlineAcontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4216 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

Hi A380CGN,

Well, first of all the camera does not make the photographer, it's the other way around!  
Now, to your picture. Do not try to upload bigger than 1024 pixels wide unless you are absolutely sure that your picture is top quality! And yours is not.
If you look carefully to the rear and the bottom fuselage (lower engine nacelles), there you will find your soft areas. Additionally, the Germanwings title on the fin is soft/blurry. You can see that you sharpened selectively some areas (reg, fuselage title), but that does not get rid of the general softens. As for the center, that is probably the least of your problems! A bit harsh I would say...
I suspect everything will look much better at 1024, with the correct amount of sharpening. And do not resize this one, start with a new edit.

[Edited 2007-01-23 22:30:55]


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User currently offlineA380CGN From Germany, joined May 2006, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4171 times:

Hi again and thanks for your help!
I edited the original pic, resized it, corrected the frame a bit, used some more USM and manually sharpened some parts.
So what do you think about it now? 1200 pix wide or 1024 pix wide. Can I use one of them?

Quote:
Well, first of all the camera does not make the photographer, it's the other way around!

Yes, I know and I didn't want to boast, it was just an explanation.  Wink


User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4166 times:

Hy,
the 1024 one looks ok to me. But don't take me too seriously, I'm not a screener. Good luck.

Regards



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2078 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4112 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD SUPPORT

Quoting A380CGN (Reply 5):
So what do you think about it now? 1200 pix wide or 1024 pix wide.

All in all quite ok! I'd go for the 1024pix but it looks a little too bright for me at could get an overexposed rejection; if you could tone it down slightly it should be good to go.

Thierry



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User currently offlineA380CGN From Germany, joined May 2006, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4096 times:

Okay guys, I just uploaded the 1024pix version (a little bit darkened, as ThierryD suggested). Now I can wait some days...   
And thanks again for your comments.  

[Edited 2007-01-24 21:57:17]

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