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User currently offlineROSWELL41 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 803 posts, RR: 1
Posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1870 times:

Today I got a call from a friend of mine who was down at MIA with his nephew taking pictures. He said that he was taking his photos in the usual, publically acessable area at MIA 9L/12, when a Miami Police cruiser pulls up and asks for license and registration and "what they were doing there" (with three or four cameras around their necks). Well, to make a long story short, the police officer ran a check of the license and looked around the vehicle before telling them to leave and cited the events of September 11 as the cause for the heightened security. The irony of the story is that they had been there taking photos days before, but it is just since the latest U.S. military action that the new security has started. Any evidence of this type of security at your airports? Anyone have a guess if photographers will be allowed to take pictures at airports without scrutiny again?

Cheers,
ROSWELL41

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User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1679 times:

Do you mean no more it's possible to go there and have some rest under the sun, with beautiful palm-trees composing the place? ooohhhh  Sad


Luis


User currently offlineN949WP From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2000, 1437 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1625 times:

Well, at least not until things cool down a bit.

'949


User currently offlineROSWELL41 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 803 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1623 times:

I guess not now at least. This extreme security is going to put a big damper on aviation photographers at all major airports, I assume.

User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1596 times:

Just a thought...If you are going near an airport stick to established viewing areas and stay out of the "its not quite tresspassing but awful close" bit. You might want to bring along a small portfolio of photos that you have shot in the past to show cops if they happen to stop to talk to you. (it is a great icebreaker. Most cops would be fascinated by good photos.) Remember that with the extra security on there will be extra cops, Natl Guardd guys, etc...going around. Many of thee regular airport cops are used to seeing photographers around the field and don't give them a second thought, but now you will have a bunch of new folks who are not used to airports. At the same time the cops are getting calls from every Tom Dick and Harry who see something suspicious in the guy with a camera near the fence. The call comes in and a unit gets sent to check it out. Turns into a pain in the ### for EVERYONE. (trust me on this, I am on both sides!!) If the cops do stop to talk to you just be cooperative. Most of the time they will be satisfied with your story. (Provided you don't have a Stinger Missile stashed in your bag...)

User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1534 times:

Is this picture taken at MIA?

User currently offlineSonic99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1512 times:


Are those spotting holes I see in the fence?


User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1503 times:

I was planning to go for spotting at MIA on September 15 - 16 - 17. Unfortunately I couldnt because of 9/11. I was planning that trip for about 4-5 months.
Now I'm reading that police is kicking out spotters from all over the places. Is anybody else going to MIA in near future?


User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1501 times:

Yes it's at Miami, close to 9L and 12 runways and yes those are holes in the fence, made for the photographers.

From there I took this one, too bad I arrived at the end of the day, the light was poor. The 727 is landing on 9L and the American is on rwy 12.

Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Luis Rosa


Luis


User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1490 times:

Great shot Luis!

I'm trying to get as much informations about spotting at MIA as possible. Before each trip to new airport (that requiring flying not driving) I'm putting small books with spotting tips together. You know, runway positions, freq. for ATC, tips from other fellows photographers etc. I have few tips already for MIA but I think they might be slightly outdated. If anybody could give me some tips that would be great.

Thanks,
Rafal


User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1486 times:

Thanks Rafal,

About giving you tips, I only can say I rented a car in South Beach and drived around Miami major roads until I get there, all the indications made it very easy. I just needed to pick up State Highway 826 and exit on NW 25th St (East direction), then straight ahead until you find some buildings on the right and the road slightly turns to the right, that's the place.

Very easy comparing with the roads indications we have here in Portugal.

Luis


User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1456 times:

Can I get exact address for this place on the picture?? I dont mean zip code and stuff like that hehe but specific address. Like street name.

That will be very helpfull
Thanks


User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1452 times:

What is the closes runway on that picture?

User currently offlineAndyEastMids From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1025 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1453 times:

Luis' picture was taken at the same place as the picture at the top where there are purpose made holes in the fence. It is right at the intersection of runway 9L and runway 12 - just to the south side of the end of 9L and 12. The 757 is lined up and ready to depart on 12 whilst the 727 is landing on 9L.

As to the street address... er.... Just go all the way west along NW36th street which runs along the north side of the airport, following the road round the corner past Challenge Air Cargo (now UPS?), so now you're going south, and you'll pass through the approach lights for 9L. Once you're past the 9L lights, when you reach a set of lights, hang a left and when you've gone past the US Customs Clearance Center building (big two storey building) the spot will be on your left.

Andy


User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1430 times:

Rafal,

There are different ways of getting there, Andy told another one.
That place is on NW 25th St, when you're in Miami look at the city map, on the airport area you'll find NW 25th St very easily. That place is on this street just close to the airport perimeter limit. The closest rwy is 12 and now you'll have much better sun conditions than I had last May, when the sun is very high.

Luis


User currently offlineJT8D From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 170 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

As the others have already stated, the location pictured is on NW 25th street just past the US customs building on the left. NW 25th st. can best be reached by taking Milam Diary Rd which has an exit from the 836 expressway on the south side of the field or from NW 36th st which runs along the North side.

>>>>>CAUTION <<<< to anyone planning to go there in the immediate future: I too have heard that the police are detaining and questioning anyone they see near the perimiter fence, EVEN in the designated area pictured. I spoke to a fellow spotter yesterday who was held, questioned then told to leave the airport area. There are no warning signs indicating anything is different, just the sudden appearance of Miami/Dade police with lights going, followed by detailed questioning, taking down of your name, address, etc. then a polite invitation to leave the area and not to return for a few weeks. :-(

Good Luck !



Graham Hitchen, KMIA
User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1396 times:

Do they develop your films for free?

Staffan Big grin


User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1358 times:

Thank you all for the response. I guess I can forget spotting next month at MIA  Sad


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