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What An Amazing Shot  
User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5228 times:

OK I can't help but start a thread on this one. Absolutely incredible. I'm guessing it's a film shot, long exposure with one hell of a flash at the end. Either way - it's one of the best I've seen.


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Outstanding shot Martin!

Drew  wave 


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User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5226 times:

Quoting AndrewUber (Thread starter):
What An Amazing Shot

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Ciao



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User currently offlineAirMalta From Malta, joined Mar 2006, 394 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5218 times:

A very nice and excellent shot can someone tell me but the image why wont come out blurry because the plane is in motion!!
Thks for your help!
Malcolm


User currently offlineInterpaul From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 409 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5243 times:

He used a second curtain flash to get that result. It's a long exposure of maybe 10-30 seconds. The camera's shutter opens when the plane is still far away, letting it move towards the camera, leaving only the streaks of light visible. When the plane is above the camera and at the spot you can see it now, he fired off a very strong flash, just before the shutter closed. The flash illuminates the plane, letting it appear frozen at that spot, even if he used a long exposure. That's how you get that effect.

Cheers
Jan

[Edited 2007-02-02 12:47:17]

User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5246 times:

Quoting Interpaul (Reply 3):
That's how you get that effect.

How would you do something like that though? Would it be using 'Bulb' mode (or equivalent)? How do you then trigger the flash at the end?

I love these shots and I would love to attempt one sometime...



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User currently offlinePrat From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 229 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5246 times:

Very impressive indeed. One of the best I've seen of this type of shot.

User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3048 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5237 times:
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Quoting Monteycarlos (Reply 4):
How would you do something like that though? Would it be using 'Bulb' mode (or equivalent)? How do you then trigger the flash at the end?

Some of the more advanced (D)SLR cameras will allow the user to choose between the more regularly used first curtain flash (where the flash fires as the shutter curtain moves up (i.e. opens), and second curtain, as explained by Jan. This allows dynamic creativity with photos at longer exposure for moving objects, so that they are pictured 'frozen' at the end of the blur - as here - or at the beginning of the blur - in first curtain usage.

I would assume that Martin chose a shutter speed, and selected second curtain in the functions of his camera, so the flash fired right at the end of the exposure just before the curtain drops (i.e. shutter closes).

I agree that it is a great photo - I shall wait to watch the viewing figures rise.

All the best.

Paul

P.S. I am guessing that it wasn't the built in flash that he used though  wink .

[Edited 2007-02-02 13:20:56]

User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 28
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5229 times:

Quoting Psych (Reply 6):
I would assume that Martin chose a shutter speed, and selected second curtain in the functions of his camera, so the flash fired right at the end of the exposure just before the curtain drops (i.e. shutter closes).

Ah I see. Now it begs the question on just how powerful is this flash?



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User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5222 times:

Quoting Monteycarlos (Reply 7):
Now it begs the question on just how powerful is this flash?

A normal speedlite should be fine if done properly  Smile That's how Mr. Yagi did his famous one at least.


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User currently offlineThowman From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 363 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5218 times:

Quoting INNflight (Reply 8):
That's how Mr. Yagi did his famous one at least

Mr Yagi did a first curtain flash, rather than a second one, which is the only difference. Same principle, but the flash fires when the shutter opens rather than just before it closes.

Andy


User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5216 times:

Hmmm... ok. I am not sure that my camera will do the curtain flash thing though? Its only a Canon EOS400D so it only really has entry level functions.  Sad

Can anyone confirm this?



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User currently offlineVzlet From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 835 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5214 times:

Quoting Monteycarlos (Reply 10):
only a Canon EOS400D

Custom function 9 allows you to choose.



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User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5206 times:

Quoting Vzlet (Reply 11):
Custom function 9 allows you to choose.

Very nice. Thanks for your help. When my camera comes back I'll be sure to give it a try!



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User currently offlineWallace From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5184 times:

Martin uses a Nikon digital camera. I don't know which one because I'm a Canon man  Smile


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User currently offlineAlphafloor From Chile, joined Jun 2004, 1277 posts, RR: 40
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5155 times:

Quoting AndrewUber (Thread starter):
Outstanding shot Martin!

I wonder what kind of powerful flash the photographer used for this shot ?



Whatever
User currently offlineAviatorG From St. Lucia, joined Apr 2005, 264 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5137 times:

Quoting Alphafloor (Reply 14):
I wonder what kind of powerful flash the photographer used for this shot ?

Why not send him a private message if you want to find out..  Smile


User currently offlinePiper From Czech Republic, joined Apr 2005, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5123 times:

Thanks for nice comments. This thread is great surprise.

The setting was exactly as you mentioned. I used bulb mode, but found that even when the second curtain is selected, the flash fires twice- at the beginning of the exposure and also at the end. So I covered the flash by hand at the beginning not to disturb pilots, then kept the shutter-release button pressed and released it when the plane was above me. Camera fired second flash. Simple, isn't it?

It's better to use wide aperture and reasonable ISO, because amount of light reaching the plane decreases with square of the distance. Equipment used: Nikon D200, fisheye 10,5/f2,8, flash SB600 (not the Nikon's most powerful!!) and steady tripod. Setting f2,8; bulb (approx. 30s) and ISO 160. Not so difficult and worth trying.  Wink


User currently offlineAlphafloor From Chile, joined Jun 2004, 1277 posts, RR: 40
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5097 times:

Hi Piper ! Welcome to the forums. Thank you very much for your technical explanations and congrats for an excellent photograph !

Regards,
Alejandro



Whatever
User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5078 times:

Quoting Piper (Reply 16):

Outstanding picture. Thanks for sharing it with us!


User currently offlineEGBJ From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 498 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5071 times:

Definately one of the best. Congrats to the photographer Big grin

User currently offlineLOCsta From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 306 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4969 times:
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cheers for the settings description Martin. A truely outstanding shot!!!


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User currently offlineLennymuir From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2002, 434 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4923 times:

I was speaking to Tony+M last year and he mentioned to me in a conversation
that Martin had acquired a 'fish-eye' lens...  scratchchin 

I couldn't figure where @ EDI he could use such a beast outside the
perimeter fence for aeroplane photography.

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Very well done young man!





Gerry


User currently offlinePiper From Czech Republic, joined Apr 2005, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4891 times:

Hi Gerry,

I have used the fisheye lens mostly for cabin and cockpit shots, this session was the first when I used it at EDI.

Tony was taking photos 2m left to me and possibly has a photo of the same aircraft but from different perspective.

Martin

[Edited 2007-02-03 01:54:47]

User currently offlineAvroArrow From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 1045 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4836 times:

I can't believe how well the flash lit the aircraft, how high do you estimate he was he when the flash went off at the end? Also how long till the cops showed up?  Smile Probably wouldn't happen to you there, but over here I'd be too nervous of getting busted to try. Absolutely fabulous shot though.


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User currently offlineAirMalta From Malta, joined Mar 2006, 394 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4818 times:

Congrats for the photographer (Martin)its a very nice image!!And thks to those who explained how to do it too.....
Malcolm  Wink


25 Post contains images OD720 : I'm usually very "greedy" in admitting great photos But this one is simply more than just pressing on the shutter, unlike what I usually do. Excellent
26 Piper : AvroArrow: Well, I would say the plane was about 20-30m above us, but take it as a very rough estimate, Gerry would be more accurate. The fisheye lens
27 Post contains links TACAA320 : Unbeliebable... Is This Picture Real? (by PanAm747 Feb 7 2007 in Civil Aviation)
28 ClassicLover : Well it was an admiring post - he did say it would make great art at the entrance to a terminal after all (which I agree with). When you're not a pho
29 TACAA320 : No matter what he said, his thread was deleted.
30 Danpio : What I would like to know is how did Martin focus on the aircraft? I've tried this before and have been repeatedly unsuccessful. I guess using the wid
31 TACAA320 : Even a photographer would wonder.
32 Post contains images Piper : Yes Daniel, I did use manual focus and focused on the dark in front of me. Nikkor 10,5mm fisheye gives amazingly wide depth of field- even on f 2,8. W
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