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User currently offlineGraphic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2466 times:

Is there anything that can be done to this?

It has seen soft, then oversharpen, then soft again, then oversharpen again, now its oversharpen, blurry, color, and quality.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...big/20070214_N218UAarr26DENx3x.jpg

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User currently offlineVice911 From China, joined Nov 2006, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2456 times:

it's a little blurry towards the tail. maybe you can post the original and someone can have a go at editiding?


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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9603 posts, RR: 69
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2449 times:
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Looks like it suffers from a low f/number.

User currently offlineWalter2222 From Belgium, joined Sep 2005, 1292 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2410 times:

Quoting Graphic (Thread starter):
It has seen soft, then oversharpen, then soft again, then oversharpen again, now its oversharpen, blurry, color, and quality.

Did you restart from scratch after the rejection or did you re-edit the previous version? In the latter case, it would be normal because everytime you save as JPEG, you loose quality. On my monitor (not the best) the titles seem over-sharpened and the registration area seems blurry. I like the shot though, with it low evening sun!

Best regards,

Walter



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User currently offlineGraphic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2410 times:

I will say this though, I really do appreciate the screeners reply in the e-mail.

If anyone wants a crack, here's the orig:
http://www.airliners.net/uf/536921701/1171478120gSvUvs.jpg


User currently offlineAcontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2405 times:
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Hi Eric,

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 2):
Looks like it suffers from a low f/number.

I have had the same problem, where due to high aperture (low f) part of the airplane was sharp in focus and part slightly out of focus. You can try by careful (and long) use of layers, sharpening the rear part more, but I doubt it will leave the picture 'perfect'. You have to decide whether it is worth the effort.
And even if you get the sharpening part, that's not going to improve the light one that leads to all your other problems (quality, color).



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3299 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2362 times:
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Here's my attempt. The back of the aircraft is very blurry, as stated above. I attempted an edit anyway, so here it is.

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 682 File size: 561kb


With the amount of sharpening I had to add to make the rear of the aircraft acceptable, the image became quite grainy. I'm afraid this one cannot be salvaged, which is a shame as I love the livery, the aircraft, and the lighting.

TIS



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User currently offlineDazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2880 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2356 times:

This is about the best I can do. The rear of the aircraft is a little blurry and the overall image is soft, maybe through a little motion blur / camera shake since the shot was taken at 281mm with a shutter of only 1/320th. This is my attempt anyway:

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 442kb


Darren



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3299 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2334 times:
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Wow. I didn't realize how screwed up the colors on my edit were until I saw Dazbo's. Haha.

Ignore mine, then.

TIS



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User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 49
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2331 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 6):
Here's my attempt

Ouch! Autolevels I presume? And a truckload of shadow/highlight. Brr....

Had a go myself...
Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 280kb

It's on the soft-side, but I prefer that over jaggies.

Ed


User currently offlineBubbles From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1193 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2329 times:

The following one is my version.

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 465kb
N218UA


_Hongyin_


User currently offlineBeechcraft From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 828 posts, RR: 42
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2303 times:

My Try...

Quite similar to Ed´s approach, but i worked a bit more on the colour of the sky.

To me, it looks a bit more harmonic this way.



Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 499kb
Test Edit


cheers, Denis



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3299 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2290 times:
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Quoting IL76 (Reply 9):
Ouch! Autolevels I presume? And a truckload of shadow/highlight. Brr....

So it would seem, haha. I apparently went quite wrong. It's a miracle the ones I asked advice on didn't look this bad, if this is what my eye told me to do with this one!

Ed and Darren, I like your edits very much. Graphic, unfortunately none of these seem to be able to save the blurry tail, but if you really want to try and upload this one, go with either Ed's or Darren's. Ed is a screener, after all, so his eye may be best in this case.

TIS



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User currently offlineFiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1013 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2284 times:

I'll throw my edit into the ring.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/154/390494850_16c5f93457_o.jpg

Danny



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User currently offlineRelic From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2284 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 2):

Hi
Ive had the same rejections for soft,then quality/blurry on the re-upload.The problem has been using low F numbers which doesnt help with certain angles of the aircraft.
Andy


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9603 posts, RR: 69
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2266 times:
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Well, Eric shot it at f/9, which is pretty good considering the light...

Could have been a focus issue, if a left side AF sensor locked on it would cause softness middle-right.

Eric, clean you sensor dood!


User currently offlineRelic From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2263 times:

http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...9913&filename=1171489231qxYitu.jpg

Hi

Here is my attempt

Andy


User currently offlineJid From Barbados, joined Dec 2004, 972 posts, RR: 32
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2263 times:

Yep clean that sensor Eric and check your mail !

Cheers Jid



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User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2184 times:

Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 7):
This is about the best I can do. The rear of the aircraft is a little blurry and the overall image is soft, maybe through a little motion blur / camera shake since the shot was taken at 281mm with a shutter of only 1/320th. This is my attempt anyway:

Out of interest, how do you find the EXIF data for this?
Thanks,Alex.


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9603 posts, RR: 69
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2181 times:
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Don't think motion blur would be a problem (from camera shake), Eric is using a Sigma 80-400 OS if I remember correctly.

You can view the EXIF data using any program that displays such info, I used Nikon View 6, but lots of programs do it.


User currently offlineGraphic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

Thanks for the edits guys!

@ Jidd: Got the e-mail, thanks!

@ Ed: That's a nice edit, is there any way to get that bright orange pop back that was the prevailing light at the time? It was a very hazy/smoggy evening and the sun was literally seconds above the mountains at that time.

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 19):
Don't think motion blur would be a problem (from camera shake), Eric is using a Sigma 80-400 OS if I remember correctly.

Yeah but there's no amount of O.S. that could have compensated for me not being able to feel my fingers at that point  cold 

Thanks again for all the help, it's much appreciated!

P.S. The sensor shall be cleaned in short order  Wink


User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2121 times:

My Version:

Big version: Width: 3097 Height: 1774 File size: 692kb



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User currently offlineNicolasRubio From Argentina, joined Sep 2005, 584 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2115 times:

I had a go too...

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/2114/117148394758bpuiax7.jpg

Cheers,
Nicolas Rubio



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User currently offlineGraphic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2101 times:

http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...1701&filename=1171518643xihftK.jpg

Better? Worse? Thoughts? I like it because it accurately shows the orange pop coming from the low sun shining through the Brown Cloud, and I used a different sharpening technique that I think helped me sharpen the rear section much better, while keeping the rest of the aircraft from becoming oversharpened.

Hows this one?


User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 49
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2083 times:

Quoting Graphic (Reply 20):
@ Ed: That's a nice edit, is there any way to get that bright orange pop back that was the prevailing light at the time? It was a very hazy/smoggy evening and the sun was literally seconds above the mountains at that time.

Well, I didn't do anything to the colours. I just moved the 'white' slider in the levels histogram closer to the left (I think it was +/- 210). If you want more orange, you'll have to play a bit more with the levels of the R, G or B.
Although not shockingly disturbing, I forgot to reduce the jaggies on the leading edge of the wing though.  Smile

Cheers,
Ed


25 Post contains images Skidmarks : What a good thread to show the many different takes each individual has on a picture. Just goes to show how difficult a screeners job is. Keep up the
26 Beechcraft : Eric, you´re last try isn´t bad. But i´d consider to upload it at 1024x XXX. There also is a bit of noise on the engine Cowling and the surrounding
27 Post contains images OD720 : Here's my go.
28 Post contains images TRVYYZ : Since everyone is playing with the shot,me too.
29 Post contains images Flyingaway : Hey I also couldn't resist!
30 Post contains links Graphic : http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...1701&filename=1171560439y973HN.jpg @Denis: Got rid of some of the noise and some of the green and resized it to
31 Post contains links Relic : http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...9913&filename=1171494146aHXAkT.jpg Hi Heres my attempt. Andy
32 OD720 : Now that we had quite some fun with the photo, can the screeners point us if any of the edits would be accepted?
33 Beechcraft : Eric, i´d say, try your last edit. it looks quite good to me. Also leave a note to the screeners about what you have done. cheers, Denis
34 Post contains links Graphic : http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/qbdive.jpg Thanks for all the advice and edits guys! Lets see how she shapes up eh?
35 Graphic : Well that's it, I'm done tryin with this pic.
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