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Illustrated Guide To Rejection Reasons II  
User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2081 posts, RR: 51
Posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3440 times:
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As feared the initial post got lost in the archives as I didn't have the time to update it for some time now.
Anyway here's the initial thread: RE: Illustrated Guide To Rejection Reasons (by ThierryD Feb 6 2007 in Aviation Photography)
And the link to the guide: http://planecatcher.com/IGRR.htm

The broken links have been repaired.

Cheers,

Thierry


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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2081 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3243 times:
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Minor update:

- Dirty rejection further illustrated

Guide: http://planecatcher.com/IGRR.htm

Thierry



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2081 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3069 times:
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Minor update:

- center rejection further illustrated

Thanks to Walter van Bel!  Wink

Guide: http://planecatcher.com/IGRR.htm

Thierry



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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3048 times:

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 2):
Minor update:

Don't you really mean...."bump"?


 rotfl  391 views and you are the only responder..... Oooops. I've ruined what could have been a record.......


User currently onlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3064 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3008 times:
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Jeff - I shall not speculate here on why you seem to take pleasure in publicly patronising other Forum users with such frequency.

I - for one - think Thierry should have had far more formal support from the site with his efforts here. I know he would be very happy to have more crew involvement in this section. Surely you must realise he has not worked on this purely to massage his own ego. It has been left to Thierry to draw people's attention to the link and the updates he has been including because - for some unknown reason - no-one else here will.

Paul

P.S. Oh - and if it is simply about 'bumping' the thread, then it seems both you and I have obliged.

[Edited 2007-03-24 09:34:26]

User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2999 times:

I actually offered to help Thierry when he first mentioned it.

Just out of interest, have you had help from screener's or from Anet staff on this project Thierry?

Quoting Psych (Reply 4):
Jeff - I shall not speculate here on why you seem to take pleasure in publicly patronising other Forum users with such frequency.

Just getting that 2500th post outa the way i guess....


User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2081 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2998 times:
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Jeff, are you really THAT bored!? You do have the age so why don't you try golfing as a pastime!?

You already unsuccessfully tried to take apart the first Illustrated guide thread now you're starting with this one; starts to become pathetic...

But since I'm a nice guy I'll explain you the purpose of the thread: it's there to inform people about updates I do on the guide; so there's absolutely no reason for any responses.

Now that this is solved why don't you go get yourself a golf club and hit some balls!


Thierry



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2081 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2989 times:
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Quoting Eadster (Reply 5):
Just out of interest, have you had help from screener's or from Anet staff on this project Thierry?

So far from the crew only Mick and Denis jumped in to offer some help; 2 of our HS's admitted to think the guide was a good idea when I started it but I never heard anything from them since then but they also completely disappeared from the forums so I guess they just wanna stay covered for a while. A personal mail to Johan remained unanswered.

I don't really care anymore though; the traffic volume on my site tells me that the guide is indeed being used and I get regular feedback from people telling me how much they appreciate the guide. Helping uploaders with the acceptance criteria on A.net is the main purpose of the guide and apparently that is being fulfilled.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be easier with support from the crew - for instance, like Paul mentionned, the linking to the guide could be much easier - but I can't force the guys either...

I'd like to thank Royal here as though he doesn't directly support the guide, his recent regular posts were pretty helpful and I'll include some of the information in another update.

So long,

Thierry



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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2959 times:

Quoting Psych (Reply 4):
P.S. Oh - and if it is simply about 'bumping' the thread, then it seems both you and I have obliged.

Yes, it seems we have, shame about the record though....


User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2904 times:

Thierry, I really like the guide. I'm sure it took you hours and hours and you're definitely not getting the credit you deserve.

One minor problem I have with it is the amount of time it takes to load all those pictures. Maybe you should just have links for some of them rather than displaying them all. Or even better yet, possibly upgrade the server you're hosting on.

Just an idea.

[Edited 2007-03-24 19:57:07]


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User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2879 times:

I was also going to mention the time it takes to load the pictures.

I would suggest having each rejection reason on its own page. That way it loads better, plus less confusion when reading through.

Just a suggestion though!

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 7):
2 of our HS's admitted to think the guide was a good idea when I started it but I never heard anything from them since then but they also completely disappeared from the forums so I guess they just wanna stay covered for a while.

It's a shame as screener's input into the reasons would be great value...


User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2081 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2879 times:
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Thanks Willson!

Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 9):
One minor problem I have with it is the amount of time it takes to load all those pictures.

I'm aware of this issue and I'm working on a solution; just putting in the links isn't on my favorites list though as I'd like to keep the illustrated guide illustrated.

Quoting Eadster (Reply 10):
I would suggest having each rejection reason on its own page. That way it loads better, plus less confusion when reading through.

That would be my favorite; thought about that solution and it might be the best compromise. It takes time though to rearrange everything and time sadly wasn't a luxury I had during the past months. Now I'm on vacation and maybe I'll be able to get it done in the following days.


Thierry

[Edited 2007-03-24 20:54:47]


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User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2830 times:

Needless to say, Thierry,
thanks very much for your time spent on the guide. A very, very useful tool.  thumbsup 

Ciao



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User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2782 times:
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Thierry,

Many thanks to you for this guide. Keep it up. With rules on Anet changing and evolving, your updates are most welcome and are an excellent visual guide particularly for new photographers who are still trying to figure out the do's and dont's subtleties on Anet.

Cheers my friend.



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2081 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2711 times:
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New major update:

- Every rejection reason now has it's own page to decrease the amount of data that has to be loaded at one time and thus greatly improves loading time of the guide

- Motive rejection further explained
- "Priority screening" updated with a link to the official screener's thread explaining the updated rules (under General hints)

The guide: http://planecatcher.com/IGRR.htm

Cheers,

Thierry



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User currently offlineWalter2222 From Belgium, joined Sep 2005, 1303 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

I recently had this one rejected for motiv, and I think it might be due to the (small) cut off (on the front side) of the vertical tail (which I did on purpose to avoid showing other distracting objects). Would this be a correct analysis or are there other contributing factors to the motiv reject?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...7_EHLE_CRW_4407_RT8_WVB_1024px.jpg

Thanks for anyone's inputs!

Best regards,

Walter



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2081 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2629 times:
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Quoting Walter2222 (Reply 15):
Would this be a correct analysis or are there other contributing factors to the motiv reject?

That's probably one of the reasons that led to the motive rejection; what I personally dislike most in your shot is the ugly grey hangar door filling the whole background which kinda absorbs the tail which should normally clearly stand out in such a photo. Also though good the quality of the shot isn't superb which is almost a must nowadays for tailshots.

Another case for the IGRR!?

Thierry



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User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1691 posts, RR: 61
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2627 times:
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Walter
I have seen this one before and I passed it on for a second opinion for its motive. Evidently another(or perhaps others) agreed.
As Thierry points out the quality is marginal and as you yourself realise the crop on the left is unattractive. The other problem is the background. The aircraft is so close to the hangar door that that is almost as sharp as the fin itself. If the background was further away and much softer by careful use of differential focus (depth of field) you might just have got away with it.
Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineWalter2222 From Belgium, joined Sep 2005, 1303 posts, RR: 28
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2620 times:

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 16):
Another case for the IGRR!?

That's what I thought as well (plenty of remarks/advice)! I agree with the reject and hope it will help others (what not to do) and myself (my enthousiasm is often much bigger than my critical analysis, I should work on that...)

Thanks Thierry & Mick for the feedback!

Best regards,

Walter



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