Paparadzi From Malaysia, joined Jan 2005, 190 posts, RR: 5 Posted (2 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 1309 times:
I wonder what type of pictures qualify for priority screening.
If an aircraft is newly painted to a new color scheme, but the color scheme has been painted on other aircraft of the same type before, does that qualify?
If it is a rare aircraft, but already with a few picture in A.net database over the years, does that qualify?
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Lanas From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 964 posts, RR: 21 Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1274 times:
Hi
There´s a complete explanation in the upload page. After you fill the form and submit the picture, on the corrections and category page, you´ll find the 'comment to screeners' box, where you´ll find the help link where the priority screening cases are listed.
Hope it helps.
Cheers!
Lanas.-
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WakeTurbulence From United States, joined Apr 2004, 1163 posts, RR: 20 Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1193 times:
So the A380 coming to LAX is NOT a priority? I'd like to get that in writing so people don't complain later about 'special' shots getting in early.
-Matt
The decisions on what will constitute priority are made by the Headscreeners when it come to 'events' and you will note that the ones that have been accepted for priority are all Air SHOWS as opposed to Air DISPLAYS, events where there are likely to be newsworthy events, basically trade shows.
As I understand it Avalon is a large display, the Southern hemispheres equivalent to RIAT which does not get priority either.
Yes, a new operator would usually qualify for priority, though a line would have to be drawn somewhere with consideration of the type of the new operation at the screeners discretion.
Monteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2095 posts, RR: 39 Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 1112 times:
Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 8): The decisions on what will constitute priority are made by the Headscreeners when it come to 'events' and you will note that the ones that have been accepted for priority are all Air SHOWS as opposed to Air DISPLAYS, events where there are likely to be newsworthy events, basically trade shows.
I'm not sure I follow? It is called the 'Australian International Airshow'. It is preceded by a trade show which lasts up until Friday afternoon, with the airshow beginning on the Friday evening.
Acontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1210 posts, RR: 41 Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 3 hours ago) and read 1092 times:
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Hi,
Sorry to jump so late in, but what about FIDAE? It's the biggest Air Show in Latin America (yes, including South and Central America), held every other year in Chile. It's a week long trade show (with daily display), followed by a public weekend. I just would assume that since it's only once every two years, it's the biggest one for a big chunk of a continent, usually packed with newsworthy events, it would qualify for priority.
Not that it's a big deal anyway, but A.net could open up itself a little and not be so focused on Europe-USA.
Just sit back, relax and have a glass of Merlot...enjoy your life!
StealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 4076 posts, RR: 52 Reply 11, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1022 times:
Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 8): As I understand it Avalon is a large display, the Southern hemispheres equivalent to RIAT which does not get priority either.
Was never really satisfied with this response the last time it was discussed, Avalon is much more than an air display it is the largest Aerospace Exposition in the Southern Hemisphere.
The chosen "priority" shows reflect the Eurocentric view of the A.net management, there are important trade shows outside Europe and the Middle East, Asian Aerospace in Singapore is another example along with shows in China, A case could be made for priority at some of the specialist shows in the USA as well.
The argument that the "priority" shows are major trade events is a curious one as the vast majority of the repetitive images given priority are quite prosaic and could be taken most weekends somewhere!
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Scbriml From United Kingdom (England), joined Jul 2003, 8894 posts, RR: 50 Reply 12, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1001 times:
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Quoting StealthZ (Reply 11): The argument that the "priority" shows are major trade events is a curious one as the vast majority of the repetitive images given priority are quite prosaic and could be taken most weekends somewhere!
I tend to agree. IMHO, the justification for the selected air shows is fragile at best. As StealthZ points out, very few of the planes at the selected air shows are new. Maybe, rather than giving priority to all shots from the selected shows, only those that would normally qualify should receive priority?
The Airbus A346 demonstrator is a good example of what I mean:
See it form this side. If an Airshow e.g. ILA Berlin is that newsworthy that it qualifies for priority screening than because many people come here to see the pics taken there without a big delay no knowing that already XXX pics of that planes are online and only few are really new to the site. Take the yellow press and a today's copy, who's on the front page? And hasn't this person been on the front page or in the newspaper a thousand time?
georg
p.s: Why always questioning the decisions which are made here?
Scbriml From United Kingdom (England), joined Jul 2003, 8894 posts, RR: 50 Reply 14, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 978 times:
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Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 13): If an Airshow e.g. ILA Berlin is that newsworthy that it qualifies for priority screening than because many people come here to see the pics taken there without a big delay
I would agree, except most of the newsworthy items from the trade air shows are totally unrelated to what happens in the flying or static display. Arguably the biggest news from Farnborough 2006 was SQ's announcement of selection of the A350XWB. No a.net photograph from Farnborough relates to that news.
If a.net desires to be the de-facto reference site for up-to-the-minute aviation photos, then considerably more "events" need to be selected for priority screening. The A380's first visit to LHR is a good example - it created massive media and public interest, yet the decision was made that it wouldn't qualify for priority screening. If it had been given priority screening, a.net could have seen hundreds, if not thousands, of new visitors looking for such newsworthy images. Yes, I know this decision was subsequently rendered null and void when a screener gave priority to one shot, but that was by accident, not design!
I am not questioning whether events should be given priority, but agreeing with StealthZ that the list of events that qualify is somewhat arbitrary. However, I still stand by my point that I cannot see why another 20 shots of F-WWCA need to be given priority screening.
Jorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3063 posts, RR: 13 Reply 15, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 966 times:
Quoting Scbriml (Reply 14): If it had been given priority screening, a.net could have seen hundreds, if not thousands, of new visitors looking for such newsworthy images.
Good point. The A-380 at NYC, ORD and IAD will sure be in the media, probably only a small ammount of pics should be given priority, Maybe the first ten uploaded.
Silver1SWA From United States, joined Mar 2004, 2829 posts, RR: 16 Reply 20, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 855 times:
Quoting Phxplanes (Reply 16): Just recently US 757 with winglets were uploaded with priority, so do winglets count as a subtype.
My shots of the first WN 737-300 with winglets were given priority. Although, I'm not sure why they didn't receive a spot on the news banner when apparently other recent "first winglets" shots have...
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D L X From United States, joined May 1999, 7744 posts, RR: 54 Reply 23, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 786 times:
Quoting StealthZ (Reply 11): The argument that the "priority" shows are major trade events is a curious one as the vast majority of the repetitive images given priority are quite prosaic and could be taken most weekends somewhere!
Quoting Scbriml (Reply 12): There are 356 shots of this plane in the database, yet when it appears at Paris and Dubai air shows this year, it will get priority screening. Why?
You two hit the nail on the head. I have never understood priority for airshow shots. I don't know what's special about an A320 showing up at Le Bourget compared to the same A320 showing up at Grand Rapids. To me, airshow priority means that during those big European airshows, none of my photos in the queue will be screened until it's over.
Clickhappy From United States, joined Sep 2001, 8834 posts, RR: 79 Reply 24, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 780 times:
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To me, airshow priority means that during those big European airshows, none of my photos in the queue will be screened until it's over.
Hmmmm. Well, at least you are honest. Selfish, but honest.
What difference does it make if it takes an extra day to have your photos screened, because of an aviation trade show in Europe, the Mid East, or anywhere else for that matter?
And, for the record, we lay on extra screening when the big shows hit, so if anything things move faster.
D L X From United States, joined May 1999, 7744 posts, RR: 54 Reply 25, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 771 times:
Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 24): What difference does it make if it takes an extra day to have your photos screened
1) because it's not just a day, and
2) because I'm not particularly jazzed by most of the shots, if I may put it in the most selfish way since you think I'm selfish.
I don't mind ceding my spot in line for newsworthy photos - but I'm with StealthZ and Scbrimley in that I don't see what's special about most of those shots that I'm ceding my spot for. I'm just telling you my opinions, and I don't think I speak only for myself.
Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 24): And, for the record, we lay on extra screening when the big shows hit, so if anything things move faster.
If that's the case, then great! But it sure didn't seem like that last year.
Again, not to shoot the messenger, but can someone explain why those shots of planes parked or landing at airshows are special just because some CEOs (not in the photo) are present nearby?
Maybe you could share how many shots are uploaded as priority during these airshows. If it's only 10-20, then this is not significant enough for me to continue bothering people about it.
26 Clickhappy: Damon, I think that you, along with Chris and Steve, make excellent points. I don't know the reason for selecting the shows that were selected, but if
27 D L X: That actually makes a lot of sense to me.
28 UnattendedBag: The outside world looks to this website for up to the minute aviation information and photos. I can't understand for the life of me, why the first vi
29 PUnmuth@VIE: Correct. But to see this you have to go to other sites like here or the one which must not be named here.
30 Jorge1812: At least one ANetter onboard. Any info how many more? georg
31 Scbriml: I accept this is a valid point. The only issue I have is with photos that actually do not convey anything "newsworthy", but just happen to have been
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