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Opinions On This Night Shot Please.  
User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4812 posts, RR: 25
Posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3885 times:
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I would like some input on the following shot.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../ready/N368733wSANmarch102007a.jpg

How does it look? Also, does the fact that the flaps were being set causing motion blur during the long exposure eliminate any possibility of acceptance?

Thanks.


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User currently offlineAussie18 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1747 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3870 times:
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Id say it looks abit soft and possible very soft/blurry around nose.

User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4812 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3827 times:
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Hmm...thanks. I'll wait for more input.

Anyone else??



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User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3818 times:

Quoting Silver1SWA (Thread starter):
Also, does the fact that the flaps were being set causing motion blur during the long exposure eliminate any possibility of acceptance?

Hy Silver, no, this is not the case...

Quoting Silver1SWA (Thread starter):
How does it look?

Light is ok, crop ok, but it looks a bit blurry to me...

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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2070 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3816 times:
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Mark's right; the picture looks overall soft, especially the engine nacelle and nose area. Might be saveable depending on the original. I'd be very interested in knowing your camera settings for this shot.

Thierry



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User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3048 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3792 times:
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Hello again Ryan.

That is an excellent photo you have there - lovely colours and overall quality.

I would agree that the blur of the flaps isn't an issue at all for me - rather, it actually enhances the image, giving a visual description of the 'activity' of the moment. But I do feel the edit does have areas of slight softness which may focus the screeners' eye. Key areas are the engine cowling, cabin windows, flightdeck area and the forward thin yellow stripe.

I would hope that can be improved in editing - if you would like me to have a go with the original feel free to get in touch.

All the best.

Paul


User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4812 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3775 times:
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Quoting ThierryD (Reply 4):
Mark's right; the picture looks overall soft, especially the engine nacelle and nose area.



Quoting Psych (Reply 5):
But I do feel the edit does have areas of slight softness which may focus the screeners' eye. Key areas are the engine cowling, cabin windows, flightdeck area and the forward thin yellow stripe.

How does this edit look? I just gave an extra punch of sharpening to the same file. Thought I would try that before doing a completely new edit. Any better?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...er1SWA/N368733wSANmarch102007b.jpg

Quoting LIPH (Reply 3):
but it looks a bit blurry to me...

Well, I didn't use a tripod. I just propped it up on a belt-loader. LOL This was the sharpest of the series of 3 that I took, so I thought I'd give it a try here.

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 4):
I'd be very interested in knowing your camera settings for this shot.

10.0 sec, f/8, ISO 100.

[Edited 2007-03-12 10:22:48]


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User currently offlineAussie18 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1747 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3762 times:
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Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 6):
How does this edit look? I just gave an extra punch of sharpening to the same file. Thought I would try that before doing a completely new edit. Any better?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...b.jpg

2nd one looks better.


User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4812 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3758 times:
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Thanks. However, I decided to do another edit anyway, this time I tried for a larger size. I want to say it came out a little better as a larger picture. Am I mistaken?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...A/N368733wSANmarch102007large3.jpg



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2070 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3738 times:
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Larger one (last edit) looks quite ok; a little more selective sharpening along the passenger windows and nose section and you should be ok.

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 6):
Quoting ThierryD (Reply 4):
I'd be very interested in knowing your camera settings for this shot.

10.0 sec, f/8, ISO 100

Your settings confirm my suspicion of a high aperture; next time try f/11 or even higher if you have the necessary time as this will render the light sources much nicer.
Taken at f/20:

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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4812 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3710 times:
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Quoting ThierryD (Reply 9):
Your settings confirm my suspicion of a high aperture; next time try f/11 or even higher if you have the necessary time as this will render the light sources much nicer.

Thank you. I'll give it a try tonight.



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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4812 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3696 times:
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Alrighty, here is my new uploaded version. Final thoughts before I leave it in the hands of the screeners? Thanks.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...y/N368733wSANmarch102007large5.jpg



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User currently offlineEK20 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3682 times:

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 11):
Final thoughts

It's too grainy. Why don't you at least reduce the image size to 1024 pixels?


User currently offlineUnattendedBag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3664 times:

Quoting EK20 (Reply 12):
It's too grainy.

I agree.

Quoting EK20 (Reply 12):
Why don't you at least reduce the image size to 1024 pixels?

I agree.



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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4812 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3651 times:
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Quoting EK20 (Reply 12):
It's too grainy. Why don't you at least reduce the image size to 1024 pixels?



Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 13):
I agree.

Because,

1. after trying 1024 (see my first two edits), I thought it came out well as a larger picture. Sometimes, when reducing all the way down to 1024, jaggies appear before sharpening is applied. This makes it difficult to sharpen the image enough without getting jaggies. I felt it was a reason why my first try was so soft.

and,

2. I took this as an indication the larger size would be ok...

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 9):
Larger one (last edit) looks quite ok; a little more selective sharpening along the passenger windows and nose section and you should be ok.

 Smile

Anyway, I have about 3 edits in this thread already. Can I get a poll indicating which one I should upload?? lol

Thanks.



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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3944 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3607 times:

How about this one, please?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/PH-APVptr.jpg

Peter Smile



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