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User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2754 times:

Hy there,
would like to try to challenge myself with a few panning shots. Can you suggest an average "time/sec" setting to have good results during a sunny day light conditions and landings/take-offs scenes ? Thanks in advance.

Ciao


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User currently offlineJid From Barbados, joined Dec 2004, 972 posts, RR: 31
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2745 times:

All depends on how good your panning technique is...

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This was shot at [ISO 100 - F8 - 1/60 - 70mm]
In good sunlight be careful not to overexpose.

Jid



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User currently offlineThomasW1974 From Austria, joined Jun 2005, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2728 times:

I'm not an expert with panning shots. This one was taken with 1/100sec. / ISO100 / F14 / Exposure correction: -2/3


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Edit: Taken with a Canon EF 75-300 without Imagestabilizer, if you have IS you might experience less
problems with camerashake.

Thomas

[Edited 2007-03-13 12:02:12]

User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2712 times:

Thanks for input guys,
actually I'll shoot with my Canon 100-400 IS, so, yes, probably I'll have less problems with camera shake, even if the 100-400 is a bit heavy to hold ! Browsing the database I've noted various timing for panning shot : some of them are even shoot at 1/15-1/25...This will be a real challenge !

Ciao



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User currently offlineThomasW1974 From Austria, joined Jun 2005, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

Quoting LIPH (Reply 3):
Browsing the database I've noted various timing for panning shot : some of them are even shoot at 1/15-1/25...This will be a real challenge !

Give me your 100-400 IS (i'm still saving money for it) and than the panning party beginns  smile 

I wish you the best of luck for your shots!

Thomas


User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2680 times:

Quoting ThomasW1974 (Reply 4):
Give me your 100-400 IS (i'm still saving money for it) and than the panning party beginns

Yeah, of course with IS everything is possibel and very easy ....  Wow!

Believe me LIPH it takes some practice .... even with IS.

Be sure that you have something coloured/contrast in back , try to follow the a/c closely, normally the sideons turn out the most unblurryed - best quality .....

One of my personal favs with 1/25th F36 ISO100 -0.3 (watch out not to overexpose the image ...)


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User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3048 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2664 times:
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I agree that for most of us humans (leaving aside the Javier's of this world) panning is a real challenge, even with the back-up of IS.

Probably my best effort was this shot:

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Photo © Paul Markman


This was taken at 1/40th (no IS, so it is possible at that speed). I usually shoot in Aperture Priority, but here it is obviously best to choose your preferred shutter speed and let the camera do the rest. But, depending on the brightness, you may end up with a very small aperture, which can start to impact on overall quality (depending on your lens).

My only other comment would be to ensure you press the shutter when the aircraft is directly in front of you (perpendicular to its line of travel), otherwise you get into this issue of the front travelling faster than the rear (relative to you) - or vice versa - which means you may catch part of the aircraft perfectly, but another part is slightly blurred.

Best of luck.

Paul


User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2641 times:

Quoting Rotate (Reply 5):
with IS everything is possibel and very easy ....

According to my first attempts, well, not really !  Wink

Quoting Rotate (Reply 5):
try to follow the a/c closely

Mmm, could you explain better what you mean ?

Quoting Psych (Reply 6):
(leaving aside the Javier's of this world) panning is a real challenge

Yeah, Paul, Javier has probably the most stunning panning collection of A.net....

Quoting Psych (Reply 6):
My only other comment would be to ensure you press the shutter when the aircraft is directly in front of you

This is new to me...Isn't this much more difficult "to follow" with your camera once the aircraft has passed the perpendicular line ?

Thanks to all for imput.

Ciao



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User currently offlineCalgaryBill From Canada, joined May 2006, 686 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2626 times:

Just adding two things I don't see addressed above:

- the length of lens you're using: the longer the lens, the faster the shutter speed you can use and still get noticeable panning. With a wider lens you'll need a slower speed to show the pan.

- how close you are to the subject. The closer you are, the faster the background will appear to move relative to the subject.

B


User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2607 times:

Take your tripod with you....makes it all easier to a certain degree.

Florian



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User currently offlineCalgaryBill From Canada, joined May 2006, 686 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2571 times:

Quoting INNflight (Reply 9):
Take your tripod with you....makes it all easier to a certain degree.

Any chance you use a Wimbley? I use a monopod, but I see a few Wimbleys kicking around at airshows and am wondering if they work for aviation?

B


User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2568 times:

Quoting CalgaryBill (Reply 10):
Any chance you use a Wimbley?

Hi, unfortunately not, I use a Manfrotto 055pro.

Cheers,
Florian



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User currently offlineWalter2222 From Belgium, joined Sep 2005, 1299 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2521 times:

Quoting Psych (Reply 6):
leaving aside the Javier's of this world

I think he doing it on purpose  Smile (just to make us jealous...  Smile

Another great panning shot of Javier:


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Photo © Javier Guerrero - AirTeamImages



Congrats again, Javier! (I would be very happy if I could make that shot at 1/250 s...  ashamed  ...)

Best regards,

Walter



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User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2521 times:

This was taken with in-built IS on the Pentax K10D...

Settings I think were 1/60th ISO100 -1.0 f19. But try your own settings. I think with panning its best to practice in low light where low shutter speeds are required. That way you can work out what works and what doesn't.


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