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User currently offlineChukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1991 posts, RR: 7
Posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2747 times:
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Hi all,

Had this photo rejected for 'level':

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...main?filename=20070314_ab05061.jpg

As there was no reliable verticals, I used the edge of the airfield. Looking at it again, it might need some CCW rotation. But I don't know how much. What should I use as reference?

Any input would be much appreciated.

Cheers,
Andrei

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User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2739 times:

Yes, it needs some CCW rotation. Would not know how much...For sure, less than 1 degrees...Take the filed of grass as a reference (you do not have any vertical). Very nice shot.

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[Edited 2007-03-14 23:00:12]


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User currently offlineAcontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2736 times:
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What about the dry grass horizon???


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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4006 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2722 times:

Beyond the dry grass and the cars, there's a lush grass horizon just visible on the extreme left, and also a bit farther to the right. I'd try to use that.

Nice picture.

Peter Smile



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User currently offlineChukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1991 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2716 times:
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Quoting Acontador (Reply 2):
What about the dry grass horizon???

That's what I used.

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 3):
there's a lush grass horizon ... I'd try to use that.

I'll try...

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 3):
Nice picture.

That's the nice ones that usually don't make it  Sad .

Thanks for the replies, guys.

Cheers,
Andrei


User currently offlineChukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1991 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2685 times:
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Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 3):
there's a lush grass horizon just visible on the extreme left ... I'd try to use that.

Tried. Ended up rotating in the wrong direction  Sad ... The thing is, it's a hilly terrain, the hills are pretty flat, and when there are no verticals, it's just a lot of guesswork.

Quoting LIPH (Reply 1):
Take the filed of grass as a reference (you do not have any vertical)

I used the dry grass horizon originally, the shot got rejected. The front edge of it is the taxiway, it is not level either.

I think the shot got rejected because the group of bystanders seems to be leaning to the right. On the original size version it's apparent, that the woman in the middle is leaning on the guy on the left, and he is sort of bracing himself against her. Not a reliable reference, either.

The fact is, I do like the shot but I have no idea how to fix the 'level'.

It would be nice to hear from the screener who rejected it, how much he thinks it should be rotated...

Cheers,
Andrei


User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4006 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2649 times:

Quoting Chukcha (Reply 5):
Tried. Ended up rotating in the wrong direction

You are right.

The Tiger's wing struts are not vertical, but since they are regular, could they be used in relation to each other, assuming the plane is level?

Left rear strut is slanted about 1.8 deg CCW according to my measurement (use the original for a better one), right rear strut about 3 deg CCW. Difference: 1.2 deg, required rotation: 0.6 deg CCW??!

I'm not at all sure this method is actually correct, but the result doesn't look too bad in my eyes.

Peter Smile



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User currently offlineChukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1991 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2633 times:
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Thanks, Peter. It might be a good idea, I'll try it.

Cheers,
Andrei

[Edited 2007-03-15 14:43:22]

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