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How To Make Color To B&w Conversion Well?

Alphafloor From Chile, joined Jun 2004, 1277 posts, RR: 45
Posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2431 times:

Hello !

I wanted to know how to convert coloured digital pictures to black & white pictures. I know you can change it by just using the grayscale but I find this way do not give full satisfaction. So I was wondering how do you handle the process, what are the steps to make a good conversion from color to b&w.

Regards,
Alejandro

Whatever

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Jorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3141 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2420 times:

I always did it in Photoshop but doesn't turn out too well for me.

Be aware, if you want to upload it, that most pics in B/W will be rejected for being B/W.

georg

Scbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 11362 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2416 times:

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There are some interesting techniques here:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/photoshop/b-w.htm

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/photoshop/toning.htm

Four more years!

Beechcraft From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 828 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2394 times:

Hi,

in case you´re using Lightroom, this might be useful:

http://www.ononesoftware.com/photopresets-wow.php

cheers,

Denis

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Sluger020889 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 456 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

I use the Channel Mixer in PS. It gives you a lot of control, and can yeild several different results, which could be as bad as it is good.

I would love to fly a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong!

Mirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3120 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2375 times:

In Photoshop best way is using channel mixer. To emulate some classic bw films just insert these values in the sliders:

Film Red Green Blue

Agfa 200X 18 41 41
Agfapan 25 25 39 36
Agfapan 100 21 40 39
Agfapan 400 20 41 39
Ilford Delta 100 21 42 37
Ilford Delta 400 22 42 36
Ilford Delta 400 Pro 31 36 33
Ilford FP4 28 41 31
Ilford HP5 23 37 40
Ilford Pan F 33 36 31
Ilford SFX 36 31 33
Ilford XP2 Super 21 42 37
Kodak Tmax 100 24 37 39
Kodak Tri X 25 35 40

Luis

Sluger020889 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 456 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

Quoting Mirage (Reply 5):
To emulate some classic bw films just insert these values in the sliders:

Film Red Green Blue

Agfa 200X 18 41 41
Agfapan 25 25 39 36
Agfapan 100 21 40 39
Agfapan 400 20 41 39
Ilford Delta 100 21 42 37
Ilford Delta 400 22 42 36
Ilford Delta 400 Pro 31 36 33
Ilford FP4 28 41 31
Ilford HP5 23 37 40
Ilford Pan F 33 36 31
Ilford SFX 36 31 33
Ilford XP2 Super 21 42 37
Kodak Tmax 100 24 37 39
Kodak Tri X 25 35 40

Wow thats some pretty cool stuff. Might just have to go have a play with those values.

I would love to fly a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong!

Beechcraft From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 828 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

...forgot to mention the Dxo Optics film pack,

quite nice, too

Denis

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Dvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1719 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2326 times:

Quoting Beechcraft (Reply 3):

in case you´re using Lightroom, this might be useful:

http://www.ononesoftware.com/photopresets-wow.php

I'll give this a second thumbs up, I've been using these for B&W and they work very well out of LR.

From the Mind of Minolta

Alphafloor From Chile, joined Jun 2004, 1277 posts, RR: 45
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

Thanks everyone for your recommendations. I will try the channel mixer and work around this.

Alejandro

Whatever

Monteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 31
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2233 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 2):
There are some interesting techniques here:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/photoshop/b-w.htm

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/phot...g.htm

Excellent site and instuctions on there. Thanks...

Quoting Mirage (Reply 5):
In Photoshop best way is using channel mixer. To emulate some classic bw films just insert these values in the sliders:

I really must thank you for mentioning this! They are excellent values to use and I really love that I can put them in and get the results similar to (if not almost exactly) original good quality B&W film.

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Alphafloor From Chile, joined Jun 2004, 1277 posts, RR: 45
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2203 times:

I must add, after playing around the values Mirage gave I had really excellent results, also thanks for that Mirage !

Whatever

Mirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3120 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2184 times:

You're welcome, I'm just the messenger, I took those values from a portuguese photography forum.

Luis

Monteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 31
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

Quoting Mirage (Reply 12):
You're welcome, I'm just the messenger, I took those values from a portuguese photography forum.

I would never have found them otherwise! Besides, my Portugese isn't too flash... Smile

It's a beautiful night to fly like a phoenix...

Monteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 31
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2108 times:

What are a.net's limitations regarding black and white conversions and uploading them to the DB?

Say I had a nostalgic shot of an old airliner, yet I took it with my 400D yesterday and edited it up in CS2, would I then be able to upload it as a B&W assuming I filled the categories in correctly?

At first thought the issue is an editing rejection, or possibly a personal rejection (dependant on the shot of course) but can it be done?

It's a beautiful night to fly like a phoenix...

Scbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 11362 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2088 times:

Quoting Monteycarlos (Reply 14):
At first thought the issue is an editing rejection, or possibly a personal rejection (dependant on the shot of course) but can it be done?

There are certainly b&w photos in the database that were taken in this century. yes

Four more years!

Monteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 31
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2069 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 15):
There are certainly b&w photos in the database that were taken in this century.

Cool... might give it a go sometime then.

It's a beautiful night to fly like a phoenix...

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