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User currently offlineFlipdewaf From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 1561 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3965 times:
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i had this photo rejected because of quality and contrast. please could somone help me with the editing with this one. i use photoshop 7 but im not quite sure how i can improve it.

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/....main?filename=20070317_co7521.jpg

Thanks

Fred

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User currently offlineOlegShv From Sweden, joined Mar 2006, 683 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3940 times:

Fred,

I doubt you can salvage this one. It looks like the quality is just not there. This could be due to many different reasons. One possibility is that the aircraft was just too far. Make sure that when you shoot you use set your camera for "fine" quality jpeg, or try shooting raw. Also, if you have not done so already, go through the photoshop workflow posted on this site.

Regards,

Oleg.


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3929 times:

Quoting Flipdewaf (Thread starter):
i use photoshop 7 but im not quite sure how i can improve it.

You can't. It's toast right out of the camera. Look at it.....why do you think the camera blew the exposure as bad as it did? Figure that out, (it's not too difficult) and you won't make that mistake again. Telling you the reason won't help you as much as you figuring it out by your self.


User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3923 times:

Quoting Flipdewaf (Thread starter):
i had this photo rejected because of quality and contrast. please could somone help me with the editing with this one. i use photoshop 7 but im not quite sure how i can improve it.

Hey Fred,

Look, honestly I doubt its chance but if you'd like to send me the original I can have a play with it. Just looking at the settings for the shot, it is apparent that they are completely wrong but send it anyway. I might be able to make it so it looks ok for personal use.

Regards, and welcome to the forums.

Carl



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User currently offlineFlipdewaf From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 1561 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3908 times:
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here is the original file.
Big version: Width: 3008 Height: 2000 File size: 1853kb


should my aperture be smaller and with a longer shutter shutter?

Fred


User currently offlineEGBJ From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 498 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3901 times:

My attempt...

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 627 File size: 140kb


Probably not up to a.net standards but an improvement anyway.  Smile


User currently offlineAvroArrow From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 1045 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3892 times:

I had a brief go at improving the pic as well, but I can't really do anything better than EGBJ. I think the photo is probably too far gone to ever make it here. I see in the Exif data that you used manual mode with pattern metering. Not that I'm an expert, but a lot of guys on here like to use centre weighted metering. Also unless you have a handheld light meter it can be awfully tricky to get a nice exposure using manual settings.
Like JeffM said you just have to play with the camera and get a handle on the different settings and find something that works for you.
Personally I use pattern metering, but I have a different camera than you do so the "brain" in the camera probably calculates things differently to yours. I also usually shoot using "P" or programmed auto mode and when using a longer focal length I usually bump the exposure comp. by at least a half stop sometimes a full one depending on conditions and the results I'm getting.



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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3885 times:

Quoting AvroArrow (Reply 6):
I see in the Exif data that you used manual mode with pattern metering.

Metering mode has no impact on Manual. Unless you are making the mistake of using it to judge your exposure.


User currently offlineFlipdewaf From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 1561 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3880 times:
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this one wasnt worth trying either then?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/easy7373.jpg

thanks for the help guys, il just keep practising

Fred


User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3868 times:

Quoting Flipdewaf (Reply 8):
this one wasnt worth trying either then?

No Fred,  Sad
it's very blurry, as the 757 was. Here you have also an odd colorcast...What you shoot with ?

Ciao



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User currently offlineFlipdewaf From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 1561 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3863 times:
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i have a nikon D40, i have only had it for 2 weeks so i will just keep practising and getting help from people on here. 99% of the people on here seem to be willing to help and it all seems very nice. i will post some of my other pictures and maybe people will be able to tell if there is somthing i am doing wrong everytime.

Fred


User currently offlineFlipdewaf From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 1561 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3860 times:
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this one has soft nose
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1237/easy3193tp7.jpg

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6725/xl7374jw3.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3343/easy7372uw3.jpg

is there somthing obvious that i am doing wrong in these? or is it just more practice.

Fred


User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4941 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3846 times:

Quoting Flipdewaf (Reply 11):
or is it just more practice.

Practice, practice! Get to know your camera well, it took me 5 months between first getting my Canon Powershot S2 IS and getting my first A.net acceptance... Editing skills make all the difference as well.



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User currently offlineFlipdewaf From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 1561 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3838 times:
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It takes me a long time to get to the airport as it is a bit of a trek on the public transport so practising on planes isnt that easy, i try to go down to the railway and practice on the High speed trains ,is that a good idea? i do go out and just shoot random things alot as well.

Fred


User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 29
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3809 times:

Personally I think mine looks relatively similar to EGBJ's version so I will not post it.

Do you mind if I ask about the settings you used, and what lens you shot with?



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User currently offlineJajo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3801 times:

I gave it a quick try, not up to a.net but better...

Big version: Width: 1100 Height: 747 File size: 541kb


/ Jacob


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