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The A.net Rejection Syndrome  
User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1428 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2482 times:

Hey all fellow photographers:

I have finally got all but 2 of my photographs on this site.. and i am mightily delighted about it. I have developed a wierd syndrome, and i want to ask if anyone else feels the same way.

Basically, whenever one of my photos gets rejected, i feel that the photograph sucks and it kind of looses its value in my own personal opinion! I find that i rarely look at it again and stop thinking its a "good" picture.

I know its a stupid feeling, but i just feel it alot! Well i am getting there.. 2 pics in the db is a start! And please this is not a rant ... just a feeling which i want to share with others and get their opinion.

regards
nitin


I want every single airport and airplane in India to be on A.net!
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User currently offlineEK20 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2457 times:

Always take photo's for you first and airliners second. However, it is true that anet has helped to improve my photography in other walks of life and for that I will always be grateful.  Smile

User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2454 times:

Quoting Deaphen (Thread starter):
Basically, whenever one of my photos gets rejected, i feel that the photograph sucks and it kind of looses its value in my own personal opinion! I find that i rarely look at it again and stop thinking its a "good" picture.

It would definitely help to see some examples of the rejected photos.

It could be your editing.

As a rule, just because your photos were rejected by the anet screeners, doesnt mean the shots were bad necesarily. Quite often its the extreme opposite. If it doesnt fit a certain guideline, it will be rejected, simple as that.

Congrats on the shots that were accepted.


User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1428 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2448 times:

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 2):
t could be your editing.

Yes i think its got alot to do with my editing... i have absolutely no clue on what to edit... the pic always just looks good to me in its original form... lol

regards
nitin



I want every single airport and airplane in India to be on A.net!
User currently offlineAirplanenut From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 659 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

Some of my favorite aviation shots are ones I won't even try here because I know they'll be rejected. It's fun when shots get on, but I've got a lot of good memories that aren't on this website... many, many more, in fact, than are on this site.


Why yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist...
User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 2):
As a rule, just because your photos were rejected by the anet screeners, doesnt mean the shots were bad necesarily. Quite often its the extreme opposite. If it doesnt fit a certain guideline, it will be rejected, simple as that.

well said. The "rules" are often directly contradictory to what is generally regarded good photography.
There's also a very high element of bias involved, personal tastes and preferences (inescapable if you have humans in the loop).

I know some professional photographers. Looking at rejected images they are universally stunned that those would be considered "bad quality", and these are guys with books in print who have worked for National Geographic.

So don't take it personally, go on as you were, and take the healthy attitude that if the screeners don't want your work that's too bad FOR THEM.



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9664 posts, RR: 68
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2355 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

There's also a very high element of bias involved

Please elaborate.


User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1688 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2332 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD SCREENER

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 6):
Please elaborate.

Oh yes, please elaborate !
I have been screening for about nine months now, not that long in the scheme of things and I used to wonder about bias, even felt a mild paranoia at times, but I can honestly say that I have never seen an element of bias, not once !
This perception is simply untrue. I have seen some inconsistency, as Jwenting points out, inevitable when humans are in the loop but we do our damndest to iron those out. Has anyone but me noticed that the complaints about inconsistency have been few and far between of late ?
As EK20 points out your photography will improve if you stick at it and part of your problem at the moment is recognising the faults. That will come with time. Read Fergul McLean's PDF on the first upload page and Thierry's guide and you cannot go far wrong
I started photographing aircraft long, long before the internet was even dreamed of - because I love aircraft. Always take your photos with that in mind and you cannot lose !
Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9664 posts, RR: 68
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2249 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

Jeroen? Jeroen? Where have you gone?

Many of us are waiting for you to clarify your remarks about biased screening


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2219 times:

bias, simply in that everyone has personal preferences. Some may for example like a specific colour balance, others may not.
Some may therefore think an image is "good enough" while others reject it out of hand.
That's inevitable if you're using humans to do a job rather than a machine.



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2175 times:

I do not believe that there is bias in the screening; certainly I have seen no evidence of that.

The rules for acceptance are, as others have said, often contrary to the commonly-accepted rules of good photography, (the rule of thirds ...) but they are what they are - we must accept them, or upload elsewhere.



Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2167 times:

As said above and time after time. Shoot for yourself. If you shoot for Anet, you'll be always fighting an uphill battle. If what you shoot for you fits the guidelines for here then great. If not, don't worry.

User currently offlineGarry From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 185 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2153 times:

Nitin - I've been uploading here for just a year and let me tell you while it is incredibly frustrating at times the standard of my photogrpahy, and editing skills, has improved considerably. I'd urge you to not dismiss your rejections but learn from them, do that and you will improve at a tremendous rate.

Good luck with it.

Garry



www.garryridsdale.com
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