Deaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1 Posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2222 times:
Hey all fellow photographers:
I have finally got all but 2 of my photographs on this site.. and i am mightily delighted about it. I have developed a wierd syndrome, and i want to ask if anyone else feels the same way.
Basically, whenever one of my photos gets rejected, i feel that the photograph sucks and it kind of looses its value in my own personal opinion! I find that i rarely look at it again and stop thinking its a "good" picture.
I know its a stupid feeling, but i just feel it alot! Well i am getting there.. 2 pics in the db is a start! And please this is not a rant ... just a feeling which i want to share with others and get their opinion.
I want every single airport and airplane in India to be on A.net!
Maiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 51 Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2194 times:
Quoting Deaphen (Thread starter): Basically, whenever one of my photos gets rejected, i feel that the photograph sucks and it kind of looses its value in my own personal opinion! I find that i rarely look at it again and stop thinking its a "good" picture.
It would definitely help to see some examples of the rejected photos.
It could be your editing.
As a rule, just because your photos were rejected by the anet screeners, doesnt mean the shots were bad necesarily. Quite often its the extreme opposite. If it doesnt fit a certain guideline, it will be rejected, simple as that.
Airplanenut From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 649 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2153 times:
Some of my favorite aviation shots are ones I won't even try here because I know they'll be rejected. It's fun when shots get on, but I've got a lot of good memories that aren't on this website... many, many more, in fact, than are on this site.
Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 20 Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2137 times:
Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 2): As a rule, just because your photos were rejected by the anet screeners, doesnt mean the shots were bad necesarily. Quite often its the extreme opposite. If it doesnt fit a certain guideline, it will be rejected, simple as that.
well said. The "rules" are often directly contradictory to what is generally regarded good photography.
There's also a very high element of bias involved, personal tastes and preferences (inescapable if you have humans in the loop).
I know some professional photographers. Looking at rejected images they are universally stunned that those would be considered "bad quality", and these are guys with books in print who have worked for National Geographic.
So don't take it personally, go on as you were, and take the healthy attitude that if the screeners don't want your work that's too bad FOR THEM.
Oh yes, please elaborate !
I have been screening for about nine months now, not that long in the scheme of things and I used to wonder about bias, even felt a mild paranoia at times, but I can honestly say that I have never seen an element of bias, not once !
This perception is simply untrue. I have seen some inconsistency, as Jwenting points out, inevitable when humans are in the loop but we do our damndest to iron those out. Has anyone but me noticed that the complaints about inconsistency have been few and far between of late ?
As EK20 points out your photography will improve if you stick at it and part of your problem at the moment is recognising the faults. That will come with time. Read Fergul McLean's PDF on the first upload page and Thierry's guide and you cannot go far wrong
I started photographing aircraft long, long before the internet was even dreamed of - because I love aircraft. Always take your photos with that in mind and you cannot lose !
Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 20 Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1959 times:
bias, simply in that everyone has personal preferences. Some may for example like a specific colour balance, others may not.
Some may therefore think an image is "good enough" while others reject it out of hand.
That's inevitable if you're using humans to do a job rather than a machine.
Viv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3139 posts, RR: 30 Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1915 times:
I do not believe that there is bias in the screening; certainly I have seen no evidence of that.
The rules for acceptance are, as others have said, often contrary to the commonly-accepted rules of good photography, (the rule of thirds ...) but they are what they are - we must accept them, or upload elsewhere.
Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
Eadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 15 Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1907 times:
As said above and time after time. Shoot for yourself. If you shoot for Anet, you'll be always fighting an uphill battle. If what you shoot for you fits the guidelines for here then great. If not, don't worry.
Garry From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 183 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1893 times:
Nitin - I've been uploading here for just a year and let me tell you while it is incredibly frustrating at times the standard of my photogrpahy, and editing skills, has improved considerably. I'd urge you to not dismiss your rejections but learn from them, do that and you will improve at a tremendous rate.