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I Need Some Opinions And Tips For My Edited Photo.  
User currently offlineDrogba From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 73 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4918 times:

Hello everyone,
I tried to edit a photo of me and I'm not quite sure, if it looks good or not. I tried to follow some advises of an editing page and I want to present my result.

http://myspots.my.funpic.de/spotterbrowser/clickairbearbeitet.jpg

I am not an expert and it is my first try, so please say, what I can do better.
Nice greetings from Berlin,
Felix

P.S.: I'm sorry, that my last topic had to be deleted, because of the bad title. I'm not a native speaker and I'm still learning English, so I'm not writing that complicated sentences.


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User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3048 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4880 times:
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Felix.

Firstly - no need to apologise for your English. You do a very good job making yourself understood in a foreign language. I don't think you will find that many native English speakers here who could do as good a job as you in German (or Dutch, Spanish, Swedish etc). Not this one for sure  wink .

As for your photo - there are a few problems which would result in a rejection here. The aircraft is not centred correctly for A.net - for that you would have to crop slightly closer to the tail, and quite a lot closer to the nose so that both sides balance. Then the aircraft would have to be a bit lower in the crop as well - as it is now, it sits slightly high in the frame. It would have to look something like this:

Big version: Width: 600 Height: 400 File size: 210kb
Felix's Shot

There are then two other key problems - that strong highlight along the fuselage is just too bright - all detail is burned out - and there is little you can do about that. Maybe you have a shot a second or two before or after, where the plane was not catching the sun like that? The aircraft also looks rather soft, and in your editing you would need to sharpen it somewhat more. Contrast is always an issue too with harsh lighting like this - but you can almost forget about that for now due to these other problems.

Let us know what editing software you have available and it will be possible to help some more. If you are able to post the original file, an alternate edit can be done for you.

All the best.

Paul


User currently onlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2069 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4872 times:
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Nothing to add to Paul's post except this link:

http://planecatcher.com/IGRR.htm

this guide might help you in your editing when trying to get shots onto A.net.  Wink

Cheers,

Thierry



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User currently offlineDrogba From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4837 times:

Thank you for your tips. By the way I'm using Photoshop CS2, but not for a long time. Earlier I took Paint Shop Pro, but it's not that accurate, than Photoshop.
I already recognized my problems of making a shot with the plane in the center. I only have a lens with max. 200mm, but I am looking for one with 300 or maybe a converter.

I will try to correct the problems you told me and hopefully there will be soon some results in the database.
Nice greetings from Berlin,
Felix

P.S.: Thank you for your compliment, concerning my English.

[Edited 2007-03-27 14:42:00]


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User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3207 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 4814 times:

I could be wrong but did you take this picture through a fence? The reason I ask is because the picture appears to be darker at each side of the photo. Great shot though!


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User currently offlineDrogba From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4795 times:

No, I didn't take it through a fence. I stood on a hill.


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User currently offlineDrogba From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4760 times:

Hello everyone,
I tried another photo now and I hope that this one is a little bit better.

http://myspots.my.funpic.de/spotterbrowser/turkishbearbeitet.jpg

It is quite wide and maybe still unsharp. What do you think?
Nice greetings from Berlin,
Felix



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User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1924 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4751 times:

Hi Felix,

Forget about the uneven size for the time being and concentrate on teh overall image quality. It seems that you have overdone the TK 340. If the original file is close to that Clickair you posted earlier, you should get much better results than this.

Regards.


User currently offlineLanas From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 978 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4734 times:

Felix

You should crop between the 3:2 and 4:3 ratios. That would solve the width/height problem.
Then you shall crop tighter on the aircraft, and place the aircraft a little higher in the frame, IMO.
Be careful because you´ve overdone the colours in the picture. Too much saturation, I guess.
As for the sharpening, I think it´s not that bad, but you´ve got some jaggies that you should try to avoid.
I see it a bit grainy, too. I think the lighting is a bit tricky, there are some backlit areas that might have lost a little quality.
Good luck with it!  Smile

Cheers!
Lanas.-



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User currently offlineDrogba From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4703 times:

Well guys, I'm loosin' it. I try to make a good edited shot, but in my eyes it still looks not good, at least not like the a.net standard.

http://myspots.my.funpic.de/spotterbrowser/turkishbearbeitet.jpg

I hope you can help me out there and tell me what I am doing wrong.
Nice greetings from Berlin,
Felix



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User currently offlineBmiBaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1806 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4698 times:

Each time I attempt to open up your images they never load... or else I'd have tired to have helped!

Bmi


User currently onlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2069 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4692 times:
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Quoting Drogba (Reply 9):
I try to make a good edited shot, but in my eyes it still looks not good, at least not like the a.net standard.

Felix, your shot looks oversharpened and shows some grain; in addition to that you should leave a little more breathing space at the front of the nose.
It's difficult to say if the shot can be brought to A.net standard without seeing the original.
If you like I'd be glad to have a go at it. You may contact me via my profile if you want me to have a look at your original file.

Thierry



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User currently offlineDrogba From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4627 times:

Hello everyone,
I was spotting yesterday and picked out two nice shots. What do you think about them. In my eyes they look quiet good.

http://myspots.my.funpic.de/spotterbrowser/txl0401200701.jpg

http://myspots.my.funpic.de/spotterbrowser/txl0401200702.jpg

Maybe the second one needs a bit of rotation?

Nice greetings from Berlin,
Felix

[Edited 2007-04-02 14:51:59]


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User currently offlineLanas From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 978 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4609 times:

Felix

Both pics are too jagged. Try to ease on the sharpness and work with layers, so you can have more control on each sharpening pass. Also the pictures appear too bright, the whites are pretty blown out, and yes, I agree that the Alitalia picture needs a little CCW rotation.  yes 
Hope it helps.  Smile

Cheers!
Lanas.-



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User currently offlineDrogba From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4603 times:

I refreshed the links with my new tries. I worked several times on the jaggies in the Malev picture. I also tried to remove them in the Alitalia and I turned it 0,5° CCW. How do you like it now?


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User currently offlineLanas From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 978 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 17 hours ago) and read 4556 times:

Felix

I still see the jaggies on the Malev pic, all over the place. Could it be possible that the links weren´t updated?
Alitalia shot has got jaggies too, in the painted areas, titles, lower belly of the fuselage, etc. However, the level is better.

Cheers!  Smile
Lanas.--



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User currently offlineDrogba From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 16 hours ago) and read 4549 times:

I think I'm doing something wrong about the jaggies. I made a second layer and worked with the eraser at least seven times at the Malev picture. Then I merged the two layers with Strg(Ctrl)+E. I read it this way and I did this way and if I'm honest, I'm not seeing less jaggies, when I see the result. I even took the eraser to 100% one time and it didn't help.


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