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User currently offlineAndrej From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 937 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3821 times:

Hello all,

in couple of weeks I am about to buy myself D200. I thought that I will get it with 18-200mm Nikkor lens. However, over past couple of days I started to make more research and I have discovered 50-150mm by Sigma. I know that is lacks the versatility of 18-200mm, but I believe that 50-150 is still good for walk-around lens. What strong point is that this lens is f/2.8, which is pretty fast.

I would like to get to aviation photography. For time being I like to take pictures of everything, well my least favorite subject are people.  cool  I have been using SLRs for past 5 years (Canon T70) and I have a huge learning curve. However there is still more to go.

Anyways, which option would suit my needs?

1. Get Nikon D200 w/ 18-200 mm by Nikkor
2. Get D200 w/ 50-150 mm by Sigma one from the following: i. 50 mm Nikkor ii. SB 600
3. Get D200 w/ 18-200 by Sigma and 50 mm Nikkor and SB 600
4. Get D200 w/ 50-150 mm and 18-200 by Sigma
5. Get D200 w/ 18-200mm, 50-150mm and SB600 (least likely option)
6. Get D200 w/18-200mm and SB600

I believe that all of these items should not cost more than $2400, since that is what I am looking to spend on option number 1.

If for any reason you think that my options are not well suited for please let me know. If you think I should go for Canon, let me know privately.

Thanks for your help!

Sincerely,
Andrej

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User currently offlineAC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3808 times:

Is there any reason why you're going specifically with the D200? I'm not saying you shouldn't, but you might be better off with a cheaper body. You'd then be able to use the money you saved to buy a higher quality lens with more reach, which IMHO would make a much bigger difference.

Just my  twocents 



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User currently offlineAndrej From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 937 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3801 times:

Hello Philip,

D200 is my dream body. I like that it is weather sealed, I liked its big LCD screen, I like functions it offers and I just like the general feel and make of that body. I also have couple of CF cards so going with D80 would make me to go ahead and buy new SD cards. I used to shoot with D70s and I like that body as well, but I would prefer to have magnesium body that is also weather sealed. I am afraid that one of these days I may accidentally drop the body or something similar.

Also I like to shoot outdoors and I like the weather seal idea, although I know that one needs weather seal on lenses as well to make it really effective.

For the time being I plan to use "basic" lens, but in future I will definitely go for 70-200 VR f/2.8 and other pro lens.

So you think going with D80 and better lens is better? I am also aware that in 99% is not what equipment one owns, but how the person is good behind the camera.  wink 

Would the 50-150mm be a good lens?

Cheers,
Andrej


User currently offlineAC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3793 times:

Quoting Andrej (Reply 2):
D80 would make me to go ahead and buy new SD cards.

Really? I thought only the D40 used SD. I just sort of assumed that something in the same price range as a 30D would have the same magnesium body and CF capability that it does. Shows how much I know about Nikon.  silly 

Quoting Andrej (Reply 2):
D200 is my dream body.

I can see your point, and I honestly think it's great that you're going with what you really want right off the bat like that. If you'd be interested, you might also be able to find a good used copy from FredMiranda.com and save some money that way.

Quoting Andrej (Reply 2):
Would the 50-150mm be a good lens?

I've heard that it's a good lens with solid build quality. Sharp at 50mm, less so at 150. Also if you'll mainly be doing aviation photography, you're probably going to want something longer, something like the Nikon 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 VR. And hey, it's $200 cheaper to boot! You can get a tripod or a nice bag for that.  biggrin 



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User currently offlineKereru From New Zealand, joined Jun 2003, 873 posts, RR: 45
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3748 times:

Get Nikon D200 with 18-200 mm by Nikkor this is a VR lens and will cover almost all situations from wide angle to moderate telephoto in a compact design. SB800 is a more powerful flash and has commander mode. Save for 80-400 or a prime lens.

Colin  old 



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User currently offlineAndrej From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 937 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3643 times:

Hey Colin,

thanks for your suggestion. After thinking about it for little while, today I purchased D200 with 18-200mm combo! I am really excited, and I can not wait till I get my camera with the lenses! I still want to get SB600 (later on), as I believe that SB800 would be too much for me (skill wise and finance wise) I would like to buy 70-200mm or 80-200 f2.8 VR. I have used 80-400 and to be honest I found it too clumsy and not really user friendly.

On the other hand I used it on cloudy day, hand-held. But still, for aviation photography I want fast lens; f2.8 fast. Maybe I one day I will buy the Super-Bigma recently announced by Sigma (Sigma APO 200-500mm F2.8 EX DG). Now that is fast and with good zoom.  Smile But I bet that it must be really heavy and tripod/monopod is a must, unless I will have rambo hands.

Cheers,
Andrej


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3640 times:
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Andrej - congrats on your D200, glad you went with the 18-200, which is a pretty sweet all around lens.

You are on the right track by wanting to purchase fast glass, don't be tempted by slower, cheaper alternatives. And, you are correct, the 80-400VR is a piece of crap not very user-friendly.

THe next lens in your kit should be a fast 70/80-200mm. If you can afford it, the 70-200 f/2.8 VR is a sweet piece of pie, if not that maybe a used 80-200 Nikon (I would only settle for the AF-S version) or a Sigma 70-200 f/2.8.


User currently offlineDiezel From Netherlands, joined Oct 2002, 646 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3590 times:

Quoting Andrej (Reply 5):
today I purchased D200 with 18-200mm combo

You won't regret that!

Don't buy extremely fast and expensive compactflash cards. It's not necessary with the D200. Buy the cheapest there are. The D200 can hold 21 RAW images in it's buffer before writing it all to flash memory. More than enough for an average landing or take-off.

If you are into wide angle, I can recommand you the Nikkor 12-24 F4. I love that lens and it is quite compact (though not cheap, but hey you knew that when you went Nikon all the way  Wink )

Now...go out, have fun and show us the pictures!

Roel.



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User currently offlineAndrej From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 937 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3536 times:

Hello Royal and Roel,

thanks for your positive reinforcement!  Smile I had chance to play with D200 couple of times, since my school owns one copy. Before that I always thought that I will buy Canon, but that has changed. I think that I have done the right think, going with the 18-200 combo as well.

And Royal, you are totally right about the 80-400. My school bought one copy and the guy who did it, regrets it. He told me that he would rather buy 70-200 VR f/2.8 and "magnifier" (can't think of the proper term) that would give him bigger reach and yet good f/ stops.

I plan to use D200 for everything, including aviation photography. I think that auto-zoom would be great addition, since I mostly used by Canon T70 w/manual focus.

I am thinking about getting the 12-24mm (Nikkor or Tokina), 50mm prime and 70-200 BUT first I need to graduate my undergrad AND graduate programs. Well maybe I will treat myself for 50 mm prime f1.8 as well as SB600 this winter!  Wink I promise that I will only try to post the best shots here and I will share some shots as soon as I will make some. I may need some assistance with the Photoshop (I am using 7, but considering getting CS3 in the future)

And finally, the camera is ready to be shipped. I hope that it was shipped today and I will get it by Friday otherwise I will have to wait till Monday!!!

Thanks for all your comments and help!

Cheers,
Andrej


User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3524 times:

Quoting Diezel (Reply 7):
Don't buy extremely fast and expensive compactflash cards. It's not necessary with the D200. Buy the cheapest there are.

With the (low) price of Sandisk Extreme III's or even Ultra II's (or other high quality equiv) why even consider cheap cards? Plus, remember the faster cards help on the other end....transfer to a PC. You usually get what you pay for. The Extreme III's are built (so they say) to withstand more abuse, comes in handy when you accidently drop a card or two.

Congrats on the D200, great body!

Mike


User currently offlineAndrej From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 937 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3408 times:

Hey all,

last post on this subject.

Today I received my D200 w/ 18-200!!!! I am SOOO HAPPY!!!!!!!

OK, will try to post some shots later!

Cheers,
Andrej


User currently offlineAirMalta From Malta, joined Mar 2006, 394 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3390 times:

what about quality if you get the 50-500mm sigma f2.8?is this a good lens?
malc


User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3381 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 6):
the 80-400VR is a piece of crap not very user-friendly

Certainly not the best lens in the world, but nevertheless is capable of giving good results.

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