Srichards From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2006, 3 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3309 times:
I recently flew in to LCY, which I've done a few times and have aways enjoyed my visits to this uniquely hassle-free airport
Howeer my opinion has changed after what happened when I tried to take a 'few' photos within the main terminal. After taking my first shot, I was approached by an Airport employee and told it was forbidden to take photos for security reasons. A very strange remark as at MAN (where I work) they only outlaw taking photos of secure/restricted areas. Anyway when I checked this with the Customer Service desk I was told that the no-photography rule was actually due to copyright reasons and that only 'official' photographers could take photos both within and outside the terminal.
I had hoped to also take a 'few' shots of the aircraft outside, but felt reluctant in case some other official came up to hassle me. Two interesting points: 1) Before taking my photo within the terminal I did see an 'armed' policemen watching me from above, who said nothing and then looked away. 2) I saw an elderly couple sitting outside by the main entrance watching aircraft land and take-off; the elderly woman was using a pair of binoculars (ooooh!). Yet no one approached her.
I've never come across this rule in any UK airport before, and find it frankly ludicrous and completely over-the-top! What if a pax's family want to take a photo of their loved one before they leave, is that also not allowed - just in case some small part of the terminal can be seen in the photo?
If I had been spending hours walking around the terminal taking photos from every angle, or been using obviously professional equipment then that might be a different matter, but these 'few' photos were strictly for my own use, as a momento of my arrival in LCY!
Unless LCY changes this ludicrous policy, it will undoubtedly lose many of its fans, and spoil the image of what has been until now the best airport in the country in terms of its friendliness, efficiency, and providing a very enjoyable overall experience. Has anyone else had any probs at LCY?
DC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1406 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3189 times:
As far as I am aware they are only a little bit 'edgy' about people taking photos of the terminal and tower. Taking photos of planes is perfectly acceptable.
I was there back in 2005 and stood on the quayside looking across the water to the runway. Two security guys approached me and asked what I was taking photos of. Not that it wasn't obvious, but I said "aircraft", to which they said was fine, although I would have to ask permission from the airport duty manager if I wanted to take photos of the terminal, but they didn't think that would be a problem. Since I'd no reason to take any photos of the terminal, nor is there anywhere from the terminal building to see the aircraft, there was no need.
Mhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3171 times:
Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 1): I was there back in 2005 and stood on the quayside looking across the water to the runway. Two security guys approached me and asked what I was taking photos of. Not that it wasn't obvious, but I said "aircraft", to which they said was fine, although I would have to ask permission from the airport duty manager if I wanted to take photos of the terminal, but they didn't think that would be a problem.
Hmm - I was there in August last year, taking photos from a similar spot, and was told by a police officer that photos were not allowed here - at the time security was still tight from the terrorism worries, so that may have been relaxed now.
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DC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1406 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3068 times:
Maybe things have altered Martin. It's two years in June since I was there, but I certainly didn't regard LCY as an "unfriendly" airport. The Met drove by a couple of times but didn't give me any trouble.
02hilliert From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2007, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3009 times:
I study at City University in London, and so have on occasions used long breaks between lectures to visit LCY, and have also flown from the airport on a couple of occasions. I have never come across any problems when taking pictures of the aircraft on show either from the quayside or indeed from inside the departure lounge. Perhaps i have just been lucky, but i have been down there 5/6 times in the last year and had no problems.
Hi, thought everyone might like to know that I got an e-mail from one of the senior managers at LCY in ref to the 'no photography' rule.
It turns out both the Airport employee and the Customer Service staff were 'mistaken'. Apparently LCY "does not have a problem with paxs/vistors taking a 'few' photos that are strictly for 'personal use'. The only exceptions are when not using common sense - e.g. photography of restricted areas such as Security, Customs etc. Also if you spent hours walking around the terminal taking photos from every angle using professional equipment, you might be questioned about why so many photos and for what purpose (re: breach of copyright).
Last point we must not allow Airports to hassle genuine innocent enthusiasts (are you listening BAA & East MIdlands!!!) If they do have a 'no photography' rule, we must keep hassling them until they remove it or at least alter it.
Anyway, this clarification from the management has reaffirmed my faith in LCY and its refreshing no-hassle experience compared to most other airports. However I did notice from my last visits that the terminal both landside and airside is becoming alot busier - maybe a victim of its own success?
Alibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2726 times:
I spent three hours last September 4th at LCY taking shots from quayside by the parking area. I had just gotten my Nikon D200 and needed to try it out. No one bothered me and there were several people with binoculars and a few with cameras. I met a guy on a bike who was cycling around the outer perimeter of the entire airport. He told me that he was harassed by Police each time he took shots from the many bridges that surround LCY. On the advise of the store manager who sold me the camera, I took all the shots that day at an ISO range of 400 - 600. As you can imagine over 200 beautiful shots were rendered useless for Anet upload. Also at some points along the runway at LCY, the wheels of the aircraft disappear. Such shots if uploaded will nearly always lead to motiv rejections. I did manage to take a shot of the control tower which was the only shot from that day that has made it on Anet DB.
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Skidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2664 times:
I have been told several times I am not allowed to take pictures at LCY. The first time I also checked with the front desk and was told the same - only autorised commercial photography was allowed.
Another time I was stopped by a car park attendant who threatened me with the police. As I was flying from there I decided not to push the subject but simply moved and became far more discrete about shooting pictures.
It does seem that the message being sent to employees is the wrong one and that personal pictures of the aircraft are allowed. Unfortunately some employees interpret the rules differently and delight in denying people thier hobby.
The whole thing is fairly ludicrous anyway as anyone can use a camera-phone and take pictures anywhere without anyone's knowledge. Simply by advertising the fact with an SLR and large lens makes the enthusiast an easy target.
If the management really do not want pictures of any sort being taken they should make it obvious and put notices up. If, as Mr Richards has said, they don't mind personal pictures, then they should ensure all airport personel are aware and stop hassling us.
I'm flying in and out of LCY at the end of May, beginning of June and I will see just how much, if anything, the attitude has changed. I might even write to the airport management as Mr Richards has done and obtain a confirmation which I will be able to show the interferring busybodys and maybe shut them up.
Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2623 times:
well, only authorised COMMERCIAL photography allowed to me means that for COMMERCIAL photography you need a permit (which IMO is perfectly understandable).
That would mean that there's no rule about non-commercial photography. But sadly a lot of people seem to think that anything bigger than a sub-mini point and shoot is a professional camera and that only people making money out of it use those.
Had the same problem at EMA a few years ago, only that was one of the shopkeepers instead of a security person.
As I was already packing up to join the boarding line I didn't argue with the guy, had I had more time I'd have told him to get the regulation stating it explicitly in print as well as his authority to enforce it.