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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24814 posts, RR: 56
Posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4603 times:

Ok, recently bought myself a wee digi cam (Samsubg S850 to be precise), so , I know this isn't an aviation photography related, but I was just looking for some advice about this one pic I've just taken. I've not done anything with it at the moment and was taken from my kitchen.
What sort of things can be done to improve it and the likes before I start consider using it for taking pics possibly to upload to a.net?.
Cheers for any comments...
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa185/grahamkirk1983/SS850042.jpg


P.S. here's a link for specs for the camera
http://www.samsungcamera.co.uk/produ..._view.asp?prol_uid=2777&cat_uid=11


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User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4585 times:

What is the subject of the picture? Is it the hedge? Is it the wall? Is it the dark green tree? Is it the dustbins?

Why is it framed in this way? (why did you cut off the tops of the window frames)

Where is the point of focus in the picture?

Should it be landscape or portrait format?



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24814 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 1):
What is the subject of the picture?

No real subject I suppose, but I see what you mean.

Quoting Viv (Reply 1):
Why is it framed in this way? (why did you cut off the tops of the window frames)

Just pointed and clicked. Didn't cut out anything, although I suppose if I'd got the window frame in the picture it might have looked better.

Quoting Viv (Reply 1):
Where is the point of focus in the picture?

Directly in the centre?

Quoting Viv (Reply 1):
Should it be landscape or portrait format?

Landscape.

Still trying to learn this art, so the critcsm is very welcome.



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User currently offlineGarry From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 183 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4561 times:

Hi - the problem is you've just taken a snap and it seems little thought has gone into it. What were you trying to show?

On a positive note you now know your camera works - get yourself a good book on photography, read it then read it again, understand some basic 'rules' of composition. And whatever you do don't just snap away the camera is much more than something to be used to record something - think about what you are trying to acheive.

I wish you well with it.

All the best
Garry



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24814 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4557 times:

Quoting Garry (Reply 3):
Hi - the problem is you've just taken a snap and it seems little thought has gone into it. What were you trying to show?

Ok fair enough.
And yes, I think I should invest in a good book  Smile

How about this one then, I threw a piece of bread out into my garden to attract some birds and managed to take this pic...although the bird isn't in the centre of the pic, I don't really know if there are any other problems with it?
Once again, all comments welcome
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa185/grahamkirk1983/SS850046.jpg



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User currently offlineWalter2222 From Belgium, joined Sep 2005, 1292 posts, RR: 29
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4551 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 2):
Still trying to learn this art, so the critcsm is very welcome.

No problem, everybody has to learn (practise makes perfect  Smile ...), and there are only a few who can turn photography into "art" .We are all trying, but only a few succeed...and that is also the beauty of the hobby, you can continuously improve and set your goals higher and higher as you proceed (but never forget to have fun and enjoy what you are doing).

You can look at photography as a tool to tell to others what you have seen (but, it is by means of a picture and mostly without words, although a nice caption can add to the story!). So, the shot should show what you want to report and it should get the attraction/interest of the viewer.

PS: ... and this forum is a fantastic place to learn from others!

Good luck and keep practising!

Best regards,

Walter



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User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4549 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 4):
although the bird isn't in the centre of the pic, I don't really know if there are any other problems with it?

The fact that the bird is not in the centre makes the picture much better! You have followed the Rule of Thirds. Imagine a tictactoe pattern on your picture, and position the subject where any two of the lines cross.

N.B. Do not be misled by the shots on this site, most of which show an aircraft dead centre in the frame. To get a shot accepted here, the general rule is that the subject must be centred, but that rule has nothing to do with good photographic composition.

The shot would have been even better if you had used selective focus to make the bird sharp. As it is the camera has focussed on the grass.

[Edited 2007-05-16 13:01:33]


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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24814 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4543 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 6):
As it is the camera has focussed on the grass.

Beautiful, wet Scottish grass

Edit:
Has anyone got any tips on how to shoot a very large explosive demolition in progress?
BNFL Chapelcross Cooling towers (4 at 300ft each) are being demolished by explosion this sunday so hope to catch it on video using this camera.

[Edited 2007-05-16 13:01:30]


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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5609 posts, RR: 45
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4506 times:
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Quoting Gkirk (Reply 7):
Has anyone got any tips on how to shoot a very large explosive demolition in progress?

This may go against the grain of photographic training but is the gospel for photojournalists... "F8 and be there"

Seriously, this is hard to answer as I have no idea of the vantage points available.
You should ideally, if possible find a spot giving a full view of the site from intact to ground level collapse.
Get there early enough to shoot some test exposures, get exp & focus right.
When demolition starts just keep shooting, zooming to recompose if necessary...
Most important ensure batteries are charged and mem card has space!

Good luck



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User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2035 posts, RR: 33
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4506 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 7):
Has anyone got any tips on how to shoot a very large explosive demolition in progress?
BNFL Chapelcross Cooling towers (4 at 300ft each) are being demolished by explosion this sunday so hope to catch it on video using this camera.

If you shoot stills, I'd go for a quick shutter speed (the fastest you can set) and shoot with continuous drive / motor drive, this will get you a nice sequence.


James



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User currently offlineINNflight From Austria, joined Apr 2004, 3765 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4498 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 4):
although the bird isn't in the centre of the pic



Quoting Viv (Reply 6):
but that rule has nothing to do with good photographic composition.

That's true, just to say at first.... and re. the bird photo, I think you did a quite good job, considering your experience isn't really high and you only just got the camera.

Next time, why don't you wet yourself a bit ( by lying on the grass, that is  Wink ) and get a lower angle on the bird. Makes it more impressive maybe, just an idea. Possibilities are endless.

Go for it Krikie ^^



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4486 times:

I suggest gasoline, matches, and a trip to the store to get a D80  Smile

User currently offlineCalgaryBill From Canada, joined May 2006, 686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4451 times:

The only thing I'll add to the good advice above is that it looks like you shot both pic's through glass. I appears there are some reflections in both images. If that's the case, either get out from behind the glass, or try to shield the camera lens by holding a black card beside the lens, use a polarizer, or a rubber lens hood (if your camera can take screw-on filters).

Other than that, keep practicing and have fun!

B


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24814 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4380 times:

Quoting CalgaryBill (Reply 12):
The only thing I'll add to the good advice above is that it looks like you shot both pic's through glass.

Well observed  Wink
But yes, thanks for the advice everyone. Practise is all I can do I suppose  Smile



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User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4292 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 6):
The shot would have been even better if you had used selective focus to make the bird sharp

When shooting wildlife, the eyes MUST be pin sharp, also the birds looks very small what I mean there is that the shot looks domineering. It would be better to shoot the bird looking up, i.e. the bird would be in a higher position than the camera so that you are looking up at the bird, makes you subject stand out more.

Quoting Viv (Reply 6):
the general rule is that the subject must be centred, but that rule has nothing to do with good photographic composition.

Agreed! Big grin

Ok to get back onto Aviation, as Viv has pointed out, A.net doesn't follow the rules of photography, well, very little, but then you have to agree that this site is a DB for aircraft not photography.
Here aircraft must in the centre and the photograph must look level, there are exceptions but they are few.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 7):
BNFL Chapelcross Cooling towers (4 at 300ft each) are being demolished by explosion this sunday so hope to catch it on video using this camera.

Try and set the camera up with a high/multiple shutter speed. I don't know what the lag time is for that camera but I would say that it is quite high which won't help your situation very much. You will have to be slective as to when you ppress the shutter button. Get the camera focused on where you want it and the by holding the button half way down, thus keeping the camera in focuse, choose your moment of when to click.

Take care

Fergul  sun 



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8416 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4111 times:
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Quoting Gkirk (Reply 7):
BNFL Chapelcross Cooling towers (4 at 300ft each) are being demolished by explosion this sunday

I told my parents about this and they were both pretty sad, they met during the construction of Chapelcross.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4106 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):
What sort of things can be done to improve it and the likes before I start consider using it for taking pics possibly to upload to a.net?.

Cows. Definitely more cows are needed.



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24814 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3925 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 15):
I told my parents about this and they were both pretty sad, they met during the construction of Chapelcross.

Here's some pics of the towers before they came down, and then afterwards. If anyone can help me with some editing of a film, then please do as I feel the film footage of the towers coming down is a bit too dark  duck 
Apologies with quality issues, haven't really had time to properly edit them yet.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa185/grahamkirk1983/SS850109.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa185/grahamkirk1983/SS850078.jpg
It got even busier than that!
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa185/grahamkirk1983/SS850077.jpg


And afterwards...

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa185/grahamkirk1983/SS850121.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa185/grahamkirk1983/SS850122.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa185/grahamkirk1983/SS850123.jpg



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User currently offlineINNflight From Austria, joined Apr 2004, 3765 posts, RR: 60
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3892 times:

You're doing quite good Kirkie  Wink


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User currently offlineSaxdiva From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2382 posts, RR: 43
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3856 times:

I'd just keep shooting--photography is one of those things that gets much better with practice. As others have suggested, an introductory guide will help you avoid some common mistakes, but there's no substitute for getting out there and taking lots of pictures, then evaluating your results, always asking yourself what would make them better. One other suggestion I'd make is to get an idea of what kinds of photography appeal to you (my imperative is simply to take pictures of stuff I like to look at), then go find examples of others' work in similar areas. As you get a handle on the basics you'll begin to develop your own eye for composition, effects, or whatever, and eventually that's what comes together as your personal style.

Also, don't be misled into thinking you can't get great photos with a point-and-shoot camera--It's done all the time in serious art photography. Just compose your shots with the differences in mind.

FWIW, I like this shot best:

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa185/grahamkirk1983/SS850122.jpg

Keep it up,
-Leanne


User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9483 posts, RR: 42
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3842 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 7):
Has anyone got any tips on how to shoot a very large explosive demolition in progress?

Damn, missed this the first time round. I was going to say the best advice is that you have to get really close. Alas, too late.  biggrin 

I assume those are the towers you could see from the A/M74 at the border. They were always the sign that you were crossing the border but, since I haven't done that trip in years, I guess I can live with it.


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24814 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3801 times:

Quoting Saxdiva (Reply 19):
FWIW, I like this shot best:

I didn't. The tatse of explosive and salt/grit in the air meant everone had to retreat  vomit 

Quoting David L (Reply 20):
Damn, missed this the first time round. I was going to say the best advice is that you have to get really close. Alas, too late. biggrin

I assume those are the towers you could see from the A/M74 at the border. They were always the sign that you were crossing the border but, since I haven't done that trip in years, I guess I can live with it.

Indeed. Nobody was allowed within 800ft of the towers.
Definitely a sad day though...



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User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9483 posts, RR: 42
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3728 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 21):
Nobody was allowed within 800ft of the towers.

I was thinking more along the lines of 10 ft.  Smile


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