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User currently offlineMx330 From Mexico, joined Oct 2002, 829 posts, RR: 12
Posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1678 times:
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... I was considering some advice on this.

I knew it would probably fall into the motiv category, which actually did along with a personal message

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...A-DNY_jcguerra_InFlight_052007.jpg

A comment from the screener regarding this upload:
"Juan you can't have the business card of APM in the centre of the pic, sorry"

It made the HQ, so it means at least somebody agreed with it...

Just want to hear your thought on if its worth to appeal. I believe it is a original and creative shot, though it doesn't make an announcement on the remarks or so...

Question: Do I have the picture without the card?
Answer: Yes

Thanks all and have a great day!

Juan APM


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User currently offlineXAAPB From Mexico, joined Jan 2005, 447 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1671 times:

I also don't understand why the personal messege saying that the card can't be there, there is no email, of telephone or the full name of APM, is just APM, I think it is a wonderfull picture, and I think it should be on the DB, let's wait to see what the screeners or head screeners say about this!
have a nice week!
Jorge



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User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1666 times:

I'm no screener, but I have to say I find the card in the middle of the photo very distracting (it catches my eye every time I look at the photo).

My ,

Tony

[Edited 2007-05-28 00:58:56]


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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4005 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1654 times:


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This store sells a book I wrote, and I must confess that I kind of regret not putting that book on the front shelf, as a little joke. That would have been subtle enough I think, since it wouldn't have distracted the viewer's attention at all.

But of course you don't put a card with you name in a plane's cockpit before you photograph it. Come on. Is it so difficult to understand why a photo website disapproves of that kind of thing?

Also, do you need to appeal your EVERY rejection? That one screener gave it a green light means nothing, he may not have realized the card was yours or have remarked to the others that it's a fine shot except for that stupid card.

Just upload the one without the card.

Peter



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User currently offlineMx330 From Mexico, joined Oct 2002, 829 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1642 times:
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Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 3):
Also, do you need to appeal your EVERY rejection?

If I understand what you are trying to say here (cause it has no coherence) the answer is no, that's why I'm asking on the forum first.

If you want a link to my rejections I can send it to you along with a stupid card so you can spend some time watching my non appealed rejections.

Greetings

Juan APM



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User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1690 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1581 times:
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Juan
It is a great photograph spoiled by the card I am afraid, seen as unnecessary, gratuitous. The inclusion of your APM logo was obvious, recognisable and distracting. If you have a similar image without the card then your reason for uploading with it is obvious - to get it noticed which it has been.
You are quite correct that it had been seen by one screener (not me) but even he did not consider it acceptable, asked a question about the card and took advice from others.
It was rejected by the next screener on the basis of that advice.
An appeal would be futile but you have an obvious solution, upload the other one.
Mick Bajcar


User currently onlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3064 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1560 times:
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Hello Juan.

For me - as a 'purist' - I would agree that the card is a negative aspect of the photo (i.e. it is clearly not part of that working environment). To my eye the horizon is really one of the main elements of the photo - it looks lovely - and the card actually distracts the eye at that point.

I would be 100% sure an appeal would be rejected for that, and so I would definitely go with the alternate photo, which I hope will be very popular for you.

Take care.

Paul


User currently offlineKMB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1553 times:

Hi Juan

I think you know the answer to this problem, don't appeal.

Submit the better image without the card, this one is very distracting to the overall view.

cheers

Kevin


User currently offlineMx330 From Mexico, joined Oct 2002, 829 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1481 times:
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Thanks all for your kind words,
I will upload the image without the card!

Hope it gets in in about a week or so!  Smile

Greetings

Juan APM



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