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Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?  
User currently offlineTopGun3 From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 263 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4221 times:

My pet peeve is the fact that in the last few days who ever screens my photos started removing my TIME info that I include with every picture I upload (over 880 pics so far). The reason why I do it is because it gives people better idea about the conditions (ie. lighting) at that time of day. Another useful feature is the ability to track the flight for anyone who would be interested. I had many people contact me saying it was a good idea to include the time.

I wouldn't bother including this info in the remark if Airliners.net didn't strip the EXIF info from the pictures, where such info would be available.

I would like to see what other A.net contributors/screeners think. I would love to include that info in the future, but I'm not going to fight it if the opinion is decidedly against it. I don't see anything in the rules about not having a time stamp.

Thanks.


I'd rather be flying.
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User currently offlineJid From Barbados, joined Dec 2004, 972 posts, RR: 31
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4176 times:

I think it is a great idea to include a time stamp Mark. I can't see any reason for it's removal either.

Jid



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User currently offlineUnattendedBag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4098 times:

I always thought it was kinda silly to include it, but there are some photographers around here that do a lot worse. You should be able to include it if you want to include it. Your photos are still good!

[Edited 2007-06-15 17:20:32]


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User currently offlineSFO2SVO From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 398 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4065 times:

I'd love to see an option to show EXIF. Kinda like now we can choose to allow/disallow comments.
Besides time, it also shows camera model, shutter speed, etc



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9625 posts, RR: 68
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4058 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

Mark,

The biggest reason those comments have been deleted is that, at least in the past, there have been huge errors in your data. Several months ago you uploaded a couple of images, you had the same date, and the time was within an hour of each other. One image was a winter wonderland, the next image there was no snow, and the tarmac was bone dry. I don't think that several inches of snow can melt away during an hour of winter sunlight, and not leave any moisture on the ground.


User currently offlineEK20 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4043 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 4):

Haha. Personally, I don't think the time matters, as long as you get the day right. You can always mail the photographer and ask if you really want to know.  Smile


User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1667 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3999 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD SCREENER

From the menu under the remark field :-

Do not type any ID number in this field! If you have no remark, leave empty.
Airliners.net reserves the right to edit or add info to this or other fields as we see fit.

Quoting EK20 (Reply 5):
You can always mail the photographer and ask if you really want to know.

Totally agree

I feel that it is unnecessary, certainly not necessary on every image. If it is particularly relevant no-one would object, but come on, every one !
I have deleted it on some when screening. It seems a futile exercise and you also omitted that a personal was left about it....as is my way !
If there is nothing to say aout an image say nothing !

Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineJid From Barbados, joined Dec 2004, 972 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3995 times:

I sometimes add my camera settings especially on panned shots in the format of [1/60 - F8 - ISO400 - @ 100mm]
Should I stop this practice in future or is this ok?


Cheers .. Jid



G7EPN is back after 15 years! Operating all Bands 80mtrs -> 70cms QRZ DX
User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1667 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3989 times:
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HEAD SCREENER

Jid
I see no harm in that when it is relevant. Most of the time the shutter speed is of little or no interest to anyone but with a panned shot it can be very significant.
My feeling is summed up above really, if there is nothing to say, say just that, nothing. If everyone started adding the exposure information for every shot, that would become another exercise in futility.

Mick


User currently offlineJid From Barbados, joined Dec 2004, 972 posts, RR: 31
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3975 times:

Thanks for that Mick, that why I only add it in unusual shots.

Cheers .. Jid



G7EPN is back after 15 years! Operating all Bands 80mtrs -> 70cms QRZ DX
User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9625 posts, RR: 68
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3961 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

sometime shutter speed can even be funny...like a while back when someone was claiming they "blur the props" at 1/800 of a sec.

Haha. Hopefully that was a typo!


User currently offlineCalgaryBill From Canada, joined May 2006, 686 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3910 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 10):
sometime shutter speed can even be funny...like a while back when someone was claiming they "blur the props" at 1/800 of a sec.

Errors aside, panning, prop and rotor shots would benefit having the shutter speed included. At least it would reduce all the "my prop shots look like models" threads.  Smile

The only things that would make "time" interesting to me are if the light is really off for that time of day (heavy, intermittent cloud making it look like a different time than it is, or solar eclipse or something similar) or when it's extremely early or late, like the 4 AM sunshine we get in northern latitudes.

B


User currently offlineTopGun3 From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3895 times:

Hey clickhappy,
thanks for your input on this matter.

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 4):
Several months ago you uploaded a couple of images, you had the same date, and the time was within an hour of each other

Wish I knew which photos you were referring to, therefore I'm not gonna try to defend myself. Could have been a mistake in date, could have been something else. (I guess having the EXIF available would have resolved that problem).

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 6):
I feel that it is unnecessary, certainly not necessary on every image. If it is particularly relevant no-one would object, but come on, every one !

Thanks for your comment. Maybe as screeners you guys are tired of actually reading the remarks....I find empty remark fields very depressing. It almost feels like the uploader didn't care at all about the picture. Everyone is an individual, everyone has their own style. If everyone was the same it would be pretty boring. So far it looks that screeners are against it, majority of non-screeners are indifferent or for it.

Now a little off the topic....just very recently I have started reading and contributing in the forums, and have noticed that some screeners have a tendency to be very negative....maybe it comes with the territory of constantly "rejecting" things. Anyways....just relax and have fun. Don't take this too seriously. It is only pictures. If us, uploaders are suppose to take picture rejections in stride, so should screeners be able to relax about having their decisions questioned.

Over and out.



I'd rather be flying.
User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3875 times:

Quoting TopGun3 (Reply 12):
I find empty remark fields very depressing. It almost feels like the uploader didn't care at all about the picture.

A picture is worth a thousand words. A good shot should be allowed to speak for itself.

[Edited 2007-06-16 12:00:09]


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User currently offlineTopGun3 From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 13):
A picture is worth a thousand words. A good shot should be allowed to speak for itself.

I do agree with you Viv, but even the 1000 words worth of a picture doesn't tell you some things.

BTW....nice pictures, wish I had some of the planes you see over here  Smile



I'd rather be flying.
User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 60
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3839 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 13):
A picture is worth a thousand words. A good shot should be allowed to speak for itself.

Captionless photos are senza emotion sometimes, if there's a story to tell, do so  Smile
I think it's nice to read a bit more about the day & scene, the photographer's observations and or opinions on a photo rather than just "landing 23R" captions.

Take care  Smile
Florian



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User currently offlineUnattendedBag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3822 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 13):
A picture is worth a thousand words. A good shot should be allowed to speak for itself.

What about adding the comment, "no comment necessary". I want to pull my hair out every time I see that!

If the picture is so great that no comment is needed, why leave a bloody 'no comment' comment!!

(im not saying you do Vivion)



Slower traffic, keep right
User currently offlineG-CIVP From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3808 times:

Actually the worst sin is putting the wrong date! One of the more amusing errors was a photograph taken at LHR from The Queen's Building which stated it was "taken" in February. Unfortunately, one could tell from the position of the shadows that it was taken in mid-summer! To have achieved a similar shot in February would have been unlikely given the position of the sun!

NB: I'm not quite sure whether the error has been corrected but don't wish to embarrass the photographer concerned.


User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3802 times:

Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 16):
What about adding the comment, "no comment necessary".



Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 16):
(im not saying you do Vivion)

Nope, I never did that!



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