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Motive And Exposure  
User currently offlineKukkudrill From Malta, joined Dec 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 5
Posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2159 times:

Rejected for motive, under/overexposure and common:

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...name=20070615_cpol07_0376_1024.jpg

Any pointers as to why motive? And does it look under/overexposed to you? It looks ok on my monitor.

Thanks,
Charles


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User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3048 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2153 times:
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Charles - the motive will be due to that clipping of the horizontal stabiliser at the back.

I think an exposure rejection is a bit harsh, though I do see some sharpening issues. Also the front looks sharper than the rear (I am looking around the area of the registration).

Cheers.

Paul


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2134 times:

Quoting Psych (Reply 1):
Charles - the motive will be due to that clipping of the horizontal stabiliser at the back.

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Quoting Psych (Reply 1):
I think an exposure rejection is a bit harsh

Overall the lighting is poor.


User currently offlineGraphic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2103 times:

Quoting Psych (Reply 1):
Charles - the motive will be due to that clipping of the horizontal stabiliser at the back.

...Seriously?


User currently offlineWakeTurbulence From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2097 times:

Quoting Graphic (Reply 3):
...Seriously?

Yes, the shot is half in and half out in regards to the stab. Generally you need to crop to the tip of the tail or leave in the whole stab, which in this case I would recommend.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 2):
Overall the lighting is poor.

I wouldn't go that far, the exposure looks alright, maybe a little bright in the fuselage which can be easily fixed.
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User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1663 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2094 times:
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Charles

There is no doubt in my mind the reason for the motive, the crop of the tailplane.
It does look a little overexposed and I would have included colour too. The red is oversaturated

Mick Bajcar

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I have never seen this one before


User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2066 times:

Quoting Psych (Reply 1):
I think an exposure rejection is a bit harsh,

Agreeed

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 2):
Overall the lighting is poor.

How good does it have to be?

Quoting WakeTurbulence (Reply 4):
the exposure looks alright, maybe a little bright in the fuselage which can be easily fixed.

Yep I agree there.

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 5):
The red is oversaturated

Not seen before, and by doing a search, not yet included in the DB, but shot down in flames by very minor flaws?


User currently offlineKukkudrill From Malta, joined Dec 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2034 times:

Thanks for the feedback guys. The stab got partly cut off in the original photo, hence the crop, which I suppose makes it not worth attempting a re-edit.

Incidentally SP-LLD is in the db (the common rejection would have been very baffling otherwise).

Charles



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2002 times:

Quoting Eadster (Reply 6):
How good does it have to be?

Well going by the fact there are 90 shots of this particular AC in the DB it has to be much better.


User currently offlineGraphic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1996 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 8):
Well going by the fact there are 90 shots of this particular AC in the DB it has to be much better.

Is that even possible?


User currently offlineINNflight From Austria, joined Apr 2004, 3765 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1976 times:

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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2069 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1969 times:
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Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 5):
I would have included colour too. The red is oversaturated

Hey Mick, so you're the one who's giving me the oversaturations on my pictures!?
You probably scanned too many old b+w slides and get a color shock everytime you see more than grey tones in a photo.  devil 
I'm still thinking about whether or not to re-edit this one:

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I really like the colors on it that's why I wanted to single them out.

Cheers,

Thierry



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User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1663 posts, RR: 62
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1963 times:
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Quoting ThierryD (Reply 11):
Hey Mick, so you're the one who's giving me the oversaturations on my pictures!?

Thierry
No, I have not rejected one of yours that I know of.
We are starting to see a lot of oversaturated images though and that makes us more aware of the problem !

Mick


User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2069 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1958 times:
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Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 12):
No, I have not rejected one of yours that I know of.
We are starting to see a lot of oversaturated images though and that makes us more aware of the problem !

I see, so it's not coming from too much b+w editing!  Wink
I like strong colors that's why I might be doing too much of it from time to time. I'll restrain myself in the future!  Wink

Thierry



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User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1956 times:

Quoting Psych (Reply 1):
clipping of the horizontal stabiliser at the back.

Why not centered then?



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User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3048 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1951 times:
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Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 14):
Why not centered then?

I guess, Peter, they are saying that it is not a case of a complete image being inappropriately placed in a crop, but it is that the image is cropped in a flawed way in their opinion and, as such, has a motive problem.

Cheers.

Paul


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