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User currently offlineKAWA From Poland, joined Jan 2005, 32 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1622 times:

Soft? Ok maybe it is soft but dirty ? Where ?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...ctions/big/20070712_przelot747.jpg

Piotr

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User currently offlineSpeedbirdEGJJ From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 432 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1592 times:

Theres a huge dustspot thats bigger than the aircraft about an inch underneath it......

User currently offlineAlphafloor From Chile, joined Jun 2004, 1277 posts, RR: 40
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1576 times:

Quoting SpeedbirdEGJJ (Reply 1):
Theres a huge dustspot thats bigger than the aircraft about an inch underneath it......

This is no a dust spot.

I can't see any spot in this shot. Fantastic shot !!!



Whatever
User currently offlineBmiBaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1820 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1567 times:

Dustpot circled in red below.

http://www.airliners.net/uf/536892286/1184253653fLjzwU.jpg



Bmibaby737


User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6839 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

Not a hole in the cloud then?


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User currently offlineIlikeflight From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 366 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1551 times:

I see dirt in the top right corner and yes its a little soft


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User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3064 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1549 times:
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Hi Piotr.

I think this shot has fallen into the same trap that one of mine did a few months ago - I posted about that one here.

I would agree that I cannot see any dirt in your photo, but that patch in the cloud highlighted by colleagues above does look rather like dust spots/blemishes look in digital images. You can see why someone might be fooled into thinking it was dirt.

I raised the issue in my thread about what we are supposed to do in such circumstances. There was no definitive answer, so we are left to draw conclusions but, on that basis, it seems that the least we should do is mention the issue to the screeners, but in the end it appears that such 'apparent' dirt should be cloned out. This may appear to contravene the sites rules about cloning, but it looks as though having a clean looking image takes priority. I drew this conclusion because I appealed my image - after being able to demonstrate beyond doubt that my 'blemish' was in fact a wisp of cloud - and it was still rejected for 'dirty'. I received no further message but on that basis I can only conclude that the screeners wanted me to tidy up the apparent blemish by cloning.

It may be helpful to get confirmation of this from the team - or a different view if required.

All the best.

Paul


User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5575 posts, RR: 63
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1515 times:
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Piotr

No maybe about it, it is soft.

Regards

Gary


User currently offlineKAWA From Poland, joined Jan 2005, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1462 times:

Better now?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/fotakawa.jpg

Piotr


User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3064 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1424 times:
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Hi Piotr.

It is a shame that, once again, we have not been able to debate this issue of cloning for 'dirt that isn't dirt'. But I think you should assume that, as no-one has said that you shouldn't do this, then the only sensible conclusions to draw is that you should - as you have done. As it is now I don't think you would get a 'dirty' rejection but, unfortunately, it sill still not going to satisfy the screeners from the point of view of quality/soft/blurry. A shame, as the effects on the contrail are very nice.

All the best.

Paul


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