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Colour Rejection, I Don`t See It..  
User currently offlineKLM772ER From Germany, joined May 2006, 615 posts, RR: 18
Posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2979 times:

Hello,

I had these two shots rejected for colour:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...0070713_D-FKMAVenghaus7upload4.jpg
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...C-MCBVenghaus5uploadairliners3.jpg


In the first one colour was the only rejection reason, plus there was a comment from the screener saying "new". Does that mean to reedit it or?
The second one got colour and also contrast.. I don't see any of it here..

Can someone help me to see the issues!!! Is the first one maybe worth to try an appeal?

Regards
Björn

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User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3982 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2973 times:

The first one looks as if its a bit green/yellowish. I'm not getting the screener comment either.
2nd one looks kinda OK to me.
It could use a bit more contrast maybe and the colour rej. is difficult to see for me atm.


User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2069 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2962 times:
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Björn, both pictures have a greenish/yellowish color cast of which you'll have to get rid. The easiest way to see the color cast is to compare your shot to either a perfectly white surface or another well balanced photo (tons of those in the db  Wink).
When adding contrast to the second shot take care not to completely blow out the nose which is pretty bright already.

Thierry



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User currently offlineIlikeflight From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 366 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2937 times:

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 2):
Björn, both pictures have a greenish/yellowish color cast of which you'll have to get rid. The easiest way to see the color cast is to compare your shot to either a perfectly white surface or another well balanced photo (tons of those in the db Wink).

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User currently offlineDM From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 336 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2920 times:

The shots do have a greenish/yellowish cast to them but i think that the last shot has a very little amount of it and it also looks like that because of green grass reflecting off the bottom of the fuselage and wings?

User currently offlineKLM772ER From Germany, joined May 2006, 615 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2857 times:

Quoting DM (Reply 4):
it also looks like that because of green grass reflecting off the bottom of the fuselage and wings?

 checkmark  That is exactly what it did.. it was on a approach over a grass field while I took that picture, and the grass was reflecting at the bottom.. As for the contrast I might at a little bit but I don't think it might look better that way...

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 2):
compare your shot to either a perfectly white surface or another well balanced photo

The thing is, that the fuselage of the An-2 just is not complete white (I know the last photo is shown that way, but it is just not true. It completely looked yellowed and that it is what the photo shows! Why do I have to edit the colours of the plane to make it look better and not show it the way it was when I photographed it (in my understanding that is what this site wants...)

Anyway Here are to edited versions... are they any better?

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 768 File size: 855kb


less yellow and less green...

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 768 File size: 492kb


little more contrast and a little less yellow and green...

Cheers
Björn

P.S.: Sorry for the late reply but I was away on business over the weekend


User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2069 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2856 times:
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Quoting KLM772ER (Reply 5):
The thing is, that the fuselage of the An-2 just is not complete white (I know the last photo is shown that way, but it is just not true. It completely looked yellowed and that it is what the photo shows!

In that case drop a note about it to the screeners (there's a "Comment to screeners" field on the 2nd upload page where you can do that) as someoone you doesn't know the plane or the circumstances of your shooting wouldn't know about the issue.

Quoting KLM772ER (Reply 5):
are they any better?

Yep!

Good luck!

Thierry



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User currently offlineDM From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 336 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2827 times:

Looking better. If you re-upload dont forget to mention about the grass in the shot with the A300.

User currently offlineKLM772ER From Germany, joined May 2006, 615 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2816 times:

Quoting DM (Reply 7):
If you re-upload dont forget to mention about the grass in the shot with the A300.

yep already done it, and also in written in the screener comment field that the An-2 looks yellowed in real  Wink
Hope they make it in this time!

Regards
Björn


User currently offlineKLM772ER From Germany, joined May 2006, 615 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2678 times:

The An got rejected again, and again only for colour! also on appeal...
Right now I am thinking it might be the saturation which causes the problem.. (over saturated, but I am not sure...)

As for the colour it self.. The shot had the same white balance as this shot taken short before (which definately has clear white surface):

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Bjoern Venghaus


and also this shot was taken maybe two seconds after the one I uploaded, and the light probably didn't change in hat short time, also here the the same white balance as for the dimona, and as for the uploaded shot, and the nose at the right side is definately white, and it was white while I took this photo! (It is completely unedited, just resized!)
Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 685 File size: 413kb

So is the colour rejection maybe for the saturation??

Any way is this version any better, I set the white balance to the fuselage is it any better? Is it worth to leave it in the queue?? Maybe it is a little oversharpened!?! But what about the colour?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/D-FKMAkomplettneu.jpg

Anyway a comment from a screener would be greatly appreciated!

Regards
Björn


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